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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)

by FusionTheism in

inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.

FusionTheism

Plus, how do we even know Charles Taze Russell was a genuine member of the 144,000?

How do we know Joseph Rutherford and his associates were chosen as the Faithful and Discreet Slave in 1919?

Being released from prison is NOT evidence of anything.

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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)

by FusionTheism in

inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.

FusionTheism

Hardtobeme,

Excellent points.

It does sound like their latest doctrine is this:

* The Governing Body, since 1919, is the Faithful Slave.

* The Governing Body existed in the First Century but was not the Faithful Slave.

* But, the Governing Body didn't even really exist until around 1971. Before that, the President of the Society had all the power.

* So, was the Faithful Slave actually appointed in 1971 instead of 1919?

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

FusionTheism

Oubliette,

Most likely means they have no manners, no politeness, no appealing qualities that would make anyone want to have any kind of conversation with them.

(At least Viv, not speaking about anyone else here)

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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)

by FusionTheism in

inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.

FusionTheism

Inspired by the three recent threads on David Splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no Faithful Slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, I decided to make this post.

Here are the three previous threads on this topic:

Here is the link to David Splane's "1900 Years Video": http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbmw_201506_1_VIDEO

Questions About JW Theology After Watching the Video:

If Jesus prophesied that He would be with His disciples all the days until the conclusion of this system of things (Matthew 28:20) and that His congregation would never be overpowered (Matthew 16:18), then how could true Christians vanish for 1900 years?
Since, as David Splane says, God does not condemn churches or Christians for misunderstanding the Bible, but only for having a bad attitude toward the Bible or toward the preaching work, does this mean that many people in the churches during those 1900 years (or even today) may have a good attitude, even though they misunderstand the Bible?
What specific attitudes among church members would be considered "good" or "bad" by God?
What were the "good" attitudes displayed by Charles Taze Russell or Joseph Rutherford, which caused God to anoint or select them for special privileges over the other church members?
David Splane says that God would not approve of Christian groups who have severe divisions, but what exactly is a "severe division," and hasn't the Society experienced these "severe divisions" in the past?
If God's number one priority is glorifying His Name, why would He allow His Name to be hidden for 1900 years?
If God wants to save all people with the truth, then why would He allow 1900 years of ignorance and darkness?
Did God view those Catholics as having a "good" attitude -- the Catholics whom David Splane said were obeying the Great Commission and preaching to other nations?
David Splane said we know God will make sure that good-hearted people receive an opportunity, but this doesn't mean we should slack off on our urgency in preaching. But how does this work? If no one went out preaching, then how would God make sure the good-hearted people receive the Good News Message?
If God is going to resurrect all the good-hearted people from all time periods, even if they were ignorant of the truth, then why do we need to preach to people? What's the purpose?

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David H. Splane: The “Slave” Is Not 1900 Years Old (Matt. 24:45)

by opusdei1972 in

interestingly, what the gb member david splane has actually exposed is that the christian religion is and was always a mess.

of course he is right in saying that there was no coherent spiritual guide during 1900 years, but it tells us what kind of "god" is their "jehovah god".

if that "god" exists, then he prevaricated for 1900 years, and he still maintains this attitude.

FusionTheism

Yes, and it kind of makes a mockery of these Scriptures:

Matthew 28:20: ...And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

Matthew 16:18: ...on this rock I will build my congregation, and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it.

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Paul said NOT to be "Harsh" in Shunning

by FusionTheism in

the apostle paul warned the corinthians not to be too harsh in their shunning of a man who was guilty of sexual immortality / adultery:.

2 co 2:5-11: now if anyone has caused sadness, he has saddened, not me, but all of you to an extentnot to be too harsh in what i say.

this rebuke given by the majority is sufficient for such a man; now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness.

FusionTheism

The Apostle Paul warned the Corinthians not to be too harsh in their shunning of a man who was guilty of sexual immortality / adultery:

2 Co 2:5-11: Now if anyone has caused sadness, he has saddened, not me, but all of you to an extent—not to be too harsh in what I say. This rebuke given by the majority is sufficient for such a man; now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness.

I therefore exhort you to confirm your love for him. For this is also why I wrote to you: to determine whether you would give proof of your obedience in all things.

If you forgive anyone for anything, I do also. In fact, whatever I have forgiven (if I have forgiven anything) has been for your sake in Christ’s sight, so that we may not be overreached by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his designs.

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Otherwise, Paul said, if you are not forgiving, but are harsh, then you've been overreached by Satan.

Also, look at Paul's command regarding those who are disobedient to his inspired letters:

2 Thessalonians 3:14-15: But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked and stop associating with him, so that he may become ashamed. And yet do not consider him an enemy, but continue admonishing him as abrother.

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

FusionTheism

done4good,

You must not be reading the same comments from atheists that I see on other threads (such as by Jonathan, Viviane, etc.

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

FusionTheism

Cofty,

What would make the existence of the God of Jesus "logically impossible" as compared to the hypothetically possible Creator spoken of by Richard Dawkins?

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

FusionTheism

Jonathan,

"Everything you've said"??

I quoted Richard Dawkins and posted a video of Richard Dawkins?

Where did I say anything?

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Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

by FusionTheism in

richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

time: "could the answer be god?

FusionTheism

Freemindfade,

So you're saying that ANYONE who thinks there is a God has "an agenda" which is NOT the truth?

Conspiracy theory much?