Posts by FusionTheism

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1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

by FusionTheism in

quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

"understanding the illustration of the talents".

"when the master rewards the slaves.".

FusionTheism

The 2014 Watchtower book entitled "God's Kingdom Rules!", on page 47, says this:

"After the appointment of the faithful slave in 1919, Jehovah helped his people to discern the work he had assigned them to do."

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I left the troof behind in 2006. What have I missed?

by Jehovah lol in

i'm up to date with what the wt taught in 2006 but have no idea what has changed since.. do tell..

* The Generation of 1914 is no longer the wicked, it is now two groups of overlapping Anointed. First group are those who witnessed 1914. Second group are those who received anointing while the first group were still alive. Tribulation must come before the second group dies off.

* The unforgivable sin is choosing not to repent.

* The Faithful and Discreet Slave is not all of the Anointed, it is only the Governing Body. It was not given expanded authority in 1919 but will be in the Tribulation.

* The Anointed on earth will be raptured to Heaven at the end of the Tribulation right before Armageddon.

* Gog is not Satan, it is a Coalition of Nations led by the mysterious King of the North.

* They have eliminated MOST of their interpretations that used the Type/Antitype Method.

* They have changed ALL of their interpretations of Parables.

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1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

by FusionTheism in

quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

"understanding the illustration of the talents".

"when the master rewards the slaves.".

FusionTheism

Quote from today's Watchtower Study Article that's being studied at the Halls (March 15, 2015, Page 24):

"Understanding the Illustration of the Talents"

"When the Master Rewards the Slaves."

"Former explanation: In 1919, Jesus rewarded his anointed slaves on earth by entrusting them with increased responsibility."

"Adjusted explanation: When Christ comes in the future, he will reward his faithful anointed slaves by raising them to heaven. The Wicked and Sluggish Slave."

"Former explanation: The wicked and sluggish slave refers to anointed ones in the 1914 era who refused to share in the preaching work."

"Adjusted explanation: Jesus was not foretelling that a group of his anointed followers would make up a wicked slave class. Rather, he was warning his followers about what would happen if they thought and acted in a way that would cause him to view them as wicked and sluggish."

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So they have erased their doctrine about 1919?

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The Kingdom of God -- Simplified Suggestion

by FusionTheism in

depending on the context, the phrase "kingdom of god" can have a few different simplified meanings:.

1: the authority of god manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.. 2: the authority of god in people's lives.. 3: the lord jesus, the 12 apostles, and others who will sit on thrones and wear crowns in the new heavens and the new earth.. 4: the 1,000 year reign of christ on earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).. 5: (in the old testament:) the nation of israel under godly kings such as david or josiah.. there are a few passages of scripture i can think of which could support the idea that the kingdom is made up of those who rule in heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth.

these are matthew 11:11-13, john 3:13, 31, acts 2:34. delving into those scriptures will be the subject of a future post.. as always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase..

FusionTheism

Plus, if you can't stand the idea of examining the Scriptures and the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, why on earth are you reading a message board category entitled "Beliefs" of Jehovah's Witnesses?

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The Kingdom of God -- Simplified Suggestion

by FusionTheism in

depending on the context, the phrase "kingdom of god" can have a few different simplified meanings:.

1: the authority of god manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.. 2: the authority of god in people's lives.. 3: the lord jesus, the 12 apostles, and others who will sit on thrones and wear crowns in the new heavens and the new earth.. 4: the 1,000 year reign of christ on earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).. 5: (in the old testament:) the nation of israel under godly kings such as david or josiah.. there are a few passages of scripture i can think of which could support the idea that the kingdom is made up of those who rule in heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth.

these are matthew 11:11-13, john 3:13, 31, acts 2:34. delving into those scriptures will be the subject of a future post.. as always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase..

FusionTheism

Viviane,

There are accepted rules that scholars and experts in the fields of Bible/book research use to determine which parts are symbolic, which are poetic, which are apocalyptic, which are narrative/prose, which are songs, etc.

There is nothing magical or mystical about it. I never say anything without checking it against the scholars and experts and their accepted rules of exegesis and interpretation.

Now, as far as what "spirit" is, the Bible simply defines it as unseen forces/beings which have a different "body" than humans do. Anything beyond that knowledge is a mystery.

The book of Revelation tells us it is a book of "symbols" or "signs," so we know it's symbolic for sure.

Bible scholars are pretty much in agreement that "wearing a crown" or "sitting on a throne" are phrases that mean "king" or "ruler."

This isn't rocket science or magic here.

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The Kingdom of God -- Simplified Suggestion

by FusionTheism in

depending on the context, the phrase "kingdom of god" can have a few different simplified meanings:.

1: the authority of god manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.. 2: the authority of god in people's lives.. 3: the lord jesus, the 12 apostles, and others who will sit on thrones and wear crowns in the new heavens and the new earth.. 4: the 1,000 year reign of christ on earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).. 5: (in the old testament:) the nation of israel under godly kings such as david or josiah.. there are a few passages of scripture i can think of which could support the idea that the kingdom is made up of those who rule in heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth.

these are matthew 11:11-13, john 3:13, 31, acts 2:34. delving into those scriptures will be the subject of a future post.. as always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase..

FusionTheism

DJS,

Ah, yet again I can definitely see that "friendly and tolerant" attitude that the Home Page of this website so proudly advertises. (Sarcasm alert)

Why do so many atheists, who maybe, barely, make up 9% or 10% of the population, consider themselves the only ones who have the truth and are superior to everyone else?

I've always wondered that?

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The Kingdom of God -- Simplified Suggestion

by FusionTheism in

depending on the context, the phrase "kingdom of god" can have a few different simplified meanings:.

1: the authority of god manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.. 2: the authority of god in people's lives.. 3: the lord jesus, the 12 apostles, and others who will sit on thrones and wear crowns in the new heavens and the new earth.. 4: the 1,000 year reign of christ on earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).. 5: (in the old testament:) the nation of israel under godly kings such as david or josiah.. there are a few passages of scripture i can think of which could support the idea that the kingdom is made up of those who rule in heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth.

these are matthew 11:11-13, john 3:13, 31, acts 2:34. delving into those scriptures will be the subject of a future post.. as always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase..

FusionTheism

Basically those are symbolic or anthropomorphic ways of attempting to express truths about the invisible spirit realm.

My best guess on "New Heavens" would be because Revelation says Satan and the demons are vanished from the Heavens, so now they are "made new."

"Crowns" and "Thrones" just represent rulership and authority.

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The Kingdom of God -- Simplified Suggestion

by FusionTheism in

depending on the context, the phrase "kingdom of god" can have a few different simplified meanings:.

1: the authority of god manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.. 2: the authority of god in people's lives.. 3: the lord jesus, the 12 apostles, and others who will sit on thrones and wear crowns in the new heavens and the new earth.. 4: the 1,000 year reign of christ on earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).. 5: (in the old testament:) the nation of israel under godly kings such as david or josiah.. there are a few passages of scripture i can think of which could support the idea that the kingdom is made up of those who rule in heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth.

these are matthew 11:11-13, john 3:13, 31, acts 2:34. delving into those scriptures will be the subject of a future post.. as always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase..

FusionTheism

Depending on the context, the phrase "Kingdom of God" can have a few different simplified meanings:

1: The authority of God manifesting itself through miracles, love, or judgment.

2: The authority of God in people's lives.

3: The Lord Jesus, the 12 Apostles, and others who will sit on Thrones and wear Crowns in the New Heavens and the New Earth.

4: The 1,000 Year Reign of Christ on Earth (if that is literal instead of symbolic).

5: (In the Old Testament:) The nation of Israel under godly kings such as David or Josiah.

There are a few passages of Scripture I can think of which could support the idea that the Kingdom is made up of those who rule in Heaven, as opposed to those who live on earth. These are Matthew 11:11-13, John 3:13, 31, Acts 2:34. Delving into those Scriptures will be the subject of a future post.

As always, the immediate context of a passage, and the context of that particular book as a whole, helps determine the meaning of the phrase.

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Spiritual AMNESTY -- Return to Jehovah

by FusionTheism in

basically, from what i can tell from the new return to jehovah brochure, is that the governing body is now offering amnesty to anyone who has been gone from the congregation but now wants to return.. it claims it doesn't matter what sins you've done, or what caused you to leave, if you repent to jehovah and ask the elders to help you, and return to the meetings, you'll be warmly welcomed with no disciplinary action or judgment against you..

FusionTheism

Does anyone on this site actually follow what the Home Page says about "friendly and tolerant?" Just curious?

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help catagorize my wife: I truely believe she suffers from cognitive dissonance and other things this stupid cult causes.

by goingthruthemotions in

i find it hard sometimes to get a good idea has to how to communicate with my wife when it come to this stupid cult.. she is born in and stopped attending for many years and got baptized later in life.

i truely believe she suffers from cognitive dissonance and other things this stupid cult causes.. here is a breakdown of what i gather to be where she is mentally.. * she calls the borg her faith.

here are actions that she does that go against her thoughts:.

FusionTheism

GoingThruTheMotions,

So, you're verbally abusive, and not a nice person in general from what I can see here, so why would anyone want to help you?

I've been "out" for 12 years, so, yeah, you assuming that I'm still "brainwashed" doesn't make much sense.