Posts by aanita

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Blood - current JW thinking...

by dozy in

a few observations from (indirectly) talking to a couple of hlc members who have recently attended meetings with his in brooklyn:.

(1) any hope that the wts will further reform the blood policy is wide of the mark.

the wts is very happy & settled with the current situation (whole blood + 4 components = nono everything else ok).

aanita

A DISSENTING VOICE

The consensus here would seem to indicate those of us opposed to the ongoing Bleeding Lambs tragedy might as well hang it up and that simply is not true; so to overturn that notion note:

The fact is that kids and adults are still bleeding to death.

As to the Governing Body being smug as to their ability to legally stay safe from lawsuits about whole blood emergency transfusions, note that they have also been smug in the same way about child molestations.

Those who put total faith in the Governing Body's interpretations as the Faith Discreet Slave instead of Jesus Christ and the Bible are likely NOT 90% of JWs but likely 20%, the rest having to seem to go along with the fanatics.

I spoke to a male nurse about a month ago who says he has lots of stories he could tell showing that when Hospital Liaison Committee member (JW Elders) are out-of-sight, many JWs do gladly accept or consent to emergency blood transfusions. As some of you have pointed out, when HLC members are present they put JW patients under duress, like a gun to the head.

JWs indeed have been mistaught that blood transfusions often lead to reception of AIDS, but this is totally false as common sense tells.

Thanks to Dr. Sam Muramoto and Lee Elder through professional journals articles have informed most doctors that all JWs do not agree with the Governing Body.

HLC's do exist and have spread but once their coerciveness becomes more understood by not only individual hospitals but governments in general there could quickly be an outlawing of them in the hospitals. This is not only desirable but deserves to be encouraged.

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QUESTIONS TO ASK TO OPEN THEIR EYES AND SAVE LIVES

by aanita in

questions to ask to open the eyes of jehovah's witnesses and save some lives.

my first question is - you use acts 15 saying "abstain from blood" as if applied to modern emergency transfusions of whole blood but isn't it balanced by matthew 12:7 where christ says god wants "mercy not sacrifice" when surely the death of even one single adult or child is sacrifice;.

my second question is - isn't it significant that 1 samuel 14:32-35 says to stay alive all saul's men ate blood with meat and were not punished with death; they only had to build an altar to show they were sorry it had been absolutely necessary, and that was due to the mosaic law then being in effect;.

aanita

QUESTIONS TO ASK TO OPEN THE EYES OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND SAVE SOME LIVES

My first question is - You use Acts 15 saying "abstain from blood" as if applied to modern emergency transfusions of whole blood but isn't it balanced by Matthew 12:7 where Christ says God wants "mercy not sacrifice" when surely the death of even one single adult or child is sacrifice;

My second question is - Isn't it significant that 1 Samuel 14:32-35 says to stay alive all Saul's men ate blood with meat and were not punished with death; they only had to build an altar to show they were sorry it had been absolutely necessary, and that was due to the Mosaic Law then being in effect;

My third is - How do you reconcile the Watchtower Society interpretations with the fact that organ transplants have whole blood in them and yet JWs can and do take those?

The fourth is - What about the fact that many identical twins transfuse whole blood back and forth to each via a shared placenta; doesn't you see that this shows God does allows some own transfusing of blood among humans?

And last I want to ask you this - A mother's blood also keeps trace amounts of a baby's blood for years due to mother-to-child transfusions by placenta; so why do you think God's own arrangments are wrong and the Watchtower Society's right?

Why not mail copies of this to JWs, give them to doctors, nurses, judges etc? Again, it can save lives. I know it can because I had a person tell me it did just that. Even one Bleeding Lamb is one Bleeding Lamb too many.

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My recent conversation with a JW

by onlycurious in

jw
friends

i had a great conversation with my witness employee last night.

she was baptised 1 yr ago and her mom is studying, too.

so far no other family members are in.

aanita

Since she and they are focused on scriptures fight fire with fire or scriptures with scriptures.

Tell her you know they use Acts 15 saying "abstain from blood" as if applied to modern emergency transfusions of whole blood but how is she able to reconcile

Matthew 12:7 where Christ says God wants "mercy not sacrifice" when surely the death of even one single adult or child is sacrifice, and also

1 Samuel 14:32 where to stay alive all Saul's men ate blood with meat and were not punished with death, only having to build an altar to show they were sorry it had been absolutely necessary, and that due to the Mosaic Law then being in effect

Also, using reasoning rather than scriptural basis you can ask her:

how do you reconcile the Watchtower Society interpretations with the fact that organ transplants have whole blood in them and yet JWs can and do take those?

what about the fact that many identical twins transfuse whole blood back and forth to each via a shared placenta?

If you want more such Questions For Reasoning email me at [email protected]