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  Shunning

  by A Believer in

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  2. experiences

  you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

  i know people who have done exactly this.

  you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

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  honest

  Out of curiosity A believer what is not true on the jwfacts.com site. Can you please elaborate instead of making empty accusations can you back up your claim that jwfacts.com has many lies? What are they? And prove it. Thanks
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  Shunning

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

  i know people who have done exactly this.

  you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

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  Reasons that get you disfellowshipped with out sinning :

  Joining another church

  Exposing the watchtower Tract society

  Celebrating holidays

  Taking a blood transfusion or donating blood

  Celebrating a birthday

  Disagreeing with Jehovahs witness doctrine

  What I have mentioned above are not sins. I know Jehovahs witnesses will try to tell you its a sin but there is no Biblical proof or truth to it.

  I went to a catholic mass and a Baptist Church and if found out I would be disfellowshipped and shunned. no sin committed......

  You forget To mention that merely resigning or dissasociating yourself gets you shunned. it is the same treatment as a disfellowshipped person. Why do you nitwits encourage people to change to your belief system but then penalise your members of they want to change their belief system?

  Please don't come on here and outright lie. We have exposed your lies.

  We the ones who are shunned have been punished and persecuted against because your evil cult leaders shit themselves when someone disagrees with them.
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  JWs and taking blood

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have a brother who works in the medical profession and in particular surgery rooms.

  he had a jw woman who needed blood.

  while the jw elders were there she said no blood.

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  Yes it's true

  My hematologist has said that most of her jw clients have taken blood transfusions in the quiet. They do it discretly like in the middle of the night.

  When you here an amazing recovery without blood transfusions for things like blood cancer and trauma 99.9 percent of jw's are lying. Good on them.
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  Disassociation - shunning - can we all lobby Government that it is against freedom of religion?

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.

  but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.

  i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.

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  honest

  Wrong Ruby.

  They Demonise ex members. They term anyone who disagrees with them as mentally diseased apostates, they also admit that shunning is just for protection it's also for loyalty and coercion. Have you not seen the latest shunning videos?

  Jehovahs witnesses are not pacifists or a harmless group. This cult has killed many more of its own members than Jim Jones did.
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  Disassociation - shunning - can we all lobby Government that it is against freedom of religion?

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.

  but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.

  i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.

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  Ruby4562 minutes ago

  jehovahs don't go that far - they do not commit physical violence or even threaten physical violence - so it cannot be called abuse in that sense

  Mental abuse is just as damaging.

  Jehovahs witnesses are not exempt from physical abuse either, they demand you to die rather than take a blood transfusion and if you disobey them you'll lose your entire family. That is physical abuse and mental abuse.
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  Disassociation - shunning - can we all lobby Government that it is against freedom of religion?

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.

  but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.

  i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.

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  In Australia we have anti bullying laws in organisations. Shunning and exclusion is included in these laws. The only problem is that religious organisations are exempt from these laws. if we have anti bullying policies for work and school then this should also extend to religions. Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientology and any other harmful cult should be threatened with loss of charity status and tax exemptions if they don't comply with basic human rights. if they want to mandate shunning sure go ahead but the government should not subsidise or give tax exemptions to them. If watchtower uses coercion so can the government 😉.

  Oh as for media not being interested in the shunning policies of Jehovahs witnesses, I disagree.... Keep your eyes open because there will be more exposure re shunning in Australia.
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  Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am agnostic.

  i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

  please answer my question.

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  Agnostic...... And loving it!!
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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  Noah's ark 😂😂😂😂 oh good lord can't believe people actually believe this story. Noah went to Australia, the Americas, south pacific Islands to preach that they will die of they don't travel to the middle east and get on his ark! How did he build that ark? Could of it possible hold millions of people, how did the kangaroos and coyotes get on it. What happened to all that methane gas? 😂😂😂 you do realise that indigenous people existed pre Noah's ark. Apparently they were killed as well?
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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  "Imagine Noah building the ark. Everyone laughs at him. Thinking their is no such thing as rain. They see Noah go into the ark and door closes. He doesn't come out for days. Everyone back then thought he was a fool, until it started raining"

  
  

  That story never happened 😂

  
  

  Oh dear A believer doesn't understand using the Bible and Bible stories to tell me what will happen to me is like me telling you Santa Claus is real and he lives in the north pole
  
  
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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  A Believer. Idle threats?!?! 150 years predicting Armageddon and it has never come yay I truly believe you and your cult leaders that I'll be annihilated at Armageddon 😂😂😂

  Let's see pedophile Jehovahs witnesses will be saved by jerkhovah because they are in his organisation, billions of good people will be killed because they don't believe in your God and cult......

  Don't you understand your imaginary threats mean nothing to me. I don't believe in you and your cult and i don't believe in the book you place your beliefs In. so threatening me with annihilation from your evil God is like me telling you Santa is real 😱