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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

by OrphanCrow in

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i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

banned.

which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

honest

I'm glad, now maybe the world will take a close look at this cult. I don't care about a organisations human rights when they clearly don't care about ours . Bitter sweet watchtower. Bitter sweet... Sorry guys but I hate this "religion" and I feel a little vindictive at the moment. I don't feel sorry for it too.. ( due to my recent circumstances). Nor do I care that some may feel I shouldnt feel this way, I don't let anyone dictate my feelings anymore.

I'm doing a happy dance.

Bad wolf is correct. Russia told watchtower to comply with the law. Watchtower defied the law. There are other religions not being targeted, if you notice it is those who really qualify as cults.

For the life of me I don't know watchtower keeps this shunning policy. Australia is now looking at them closely due to their shunning policies and pedophilia policies.

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Serena Williams Pregnant

by wisdomfrombelow in

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now that she has announced that she is 20 weeks pregnant and not married, what is her status in the cult?

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honest

She is not baptised guys. She is not mandated to follow watchtower rules nor does watchtower by their own policy need to take action on her. Not baptised = never a jw.

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Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions

by jambon1 in

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what is it with this pair?

why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?

a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.

honest

Why should we have forced unity? Sounds like a cult mentality to me

I like John Cedars thoughts on things but I don't like anyone dictating me on how I feel and then telling me I should change my opinions because they feel I should. I want Russia to ban this horrid wretched evil cult.

Such a beautiful thing to be free and allow yourself to be you and if anyone thinks my opinions are mentally unsound then that's their prerogative. I don't dig dictators, nobody tells how to feel anymore

Ps I didn't see this video of Marc and cora being confrontational they were given others a voice too.

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Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

by Simon in

how many times did you hear that gem?

it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

honest

Simon is correct. Jw's don't really care about truth, they love the social structure, parties, friends etc etc. If they really worried about truth they would leave the organisation, the organisations history is proof enough, current generation teachings should of woken up every jw! what I have observed is that the social click is very strong,they only have jw friends, it's what they are comfortable with. The real truth seekers are those who leave or fade away and make a life outside the jw social click.

When I speak with jw family I feel sorry for them, they would rather be in a captive religion than allow themselves the freedom to question. I have pity for them. True pity.... Poor deluded and manipulated human beings. As for us I'm so happy to have left that manipulation and brain Borg group. Sure I'm inactive and occasionally attend a memorial or special talks, I do this for family, but gives me reassurance and I can see objectively how manipulated these poor souls are. I am so happy to have woken up and reclaimed my life. Watchtower is such a evil organisation, I can see it clearly. The people in it are mostly good and caring people but have allowed themselves to be controlled 😞 eg shunning is such a unnatural practice yet they will obey the leaders stance on this even cutting off family. They are no different to the people's Temple , they are a danger because they are being manipulated.

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

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Edenone I have family members who are jw's as much as I love them I believe this is for the greater good. we all have to make sacrifices in order to benefit the greater majority. The people's temple were full of good people, they all did stupid things under the influence of a evil leader. Jehovahs witnesses are no different

Willing to sacrifice even their own children.

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What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..

honest

I'll be celebrating the black mass with a hail Satan and a new 666 tattoo 😂

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

honest

I for one am happy that finally a government has recognised the evilness of this cult. About time. I now hope other countries will toughen their stance on what is classified a religion and punish those who don't comply with basic human rights.

We have to remember Russia warned watchtower and gave them plenty of time to change their policies and publications. Watchtower refused to comply with the extremist laws and now will be banned.

It's fair.

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

honest

Religion is a curse on society

Islam is the biggest contributor 😣

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Uniting Church apologises to victims of sexual abuse, Jehovah's Witnesses defend treatment

by NikL in

apologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.

honest

How does that matter Richard??? There are elders who are employed by watchtower who have and are abusing children. Regardless of setting and wages, elders are employed by watchtower to direct the congregation. Even congregant members are considered as preachers. Even FAQ on jw.borg claims all congregants are preachers including women, therfore even a publisher should be under the same scrutiny. If a Preacher publisher is a pedophile, that pedophile is employed by watchtower to represent them. Justice McClellan stated quite harshly that watchtower will not squirm out of it because they merely don't pay a wage or because some of the offenders were only publishers. He knows the jw structure. And don't think the Australian royal commission has no power that nothing can be done, the Australian government is watching very carefully at organisations who don't comply.. There will be changes and if Jehovahs witnesses don't comply they will be punished. This horrid cult should be recognised for what it is and that is that's a high control group that causes distress and denies basic human rights to its congregants, something that should not happen in Australia. Leaving a religion should never entail such harsh Consequences. The shunning policy ls the biggest hurtful policy that causes distress to child abuse victims because they are threatened if they talk against the organisation, many are afraid to seek compensation because they may be branded as an apostate and going against The organisation and consequently will be disfellowshipped. I know many who keep quiet because they can't bear losing their families. Now that's control and no organisation has the right to do that.

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What do you think the Australian Government will do?

by Richard Oliver in

i am not wanting to start a fight.

i just want to hear what people think.

honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.

honest

Ruby nick xenophon isn't interested in banning any religious movement, but he is trying to get the charitable status and tax exemptions to have tougher requirements which he can do.

How does this become like Russia? Jehovahs witnesses will still be able to freely preach and congregate, they just won't be recognised as a charity. We know that they never were a charity anyway.

Stripping a organisation that is not a charity of their charity status is not the same as banning a religion.