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Will this earth be destroy by fire???

by evangelist in

i found scriptures saying that this world will be destroyed by fire.. the question is will this earth be destroyed, or only the system of this world be destroyed???

what is meant by this word fundation in greek??

heb:1:10: and, thou, lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: .

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clash_city_rockers

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Posts: 214
Since: Dec 14, 2001 Re: Will this earth be destroy by fire??? May 25, 2002 06:45

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Evangelist,
No where in scripture does the bible forbid alcoholic bevereges, drunkeness yes booze no. Infact God commands us to buy booze Duet. 14:26 You need to learn about Christian liberty.

Evangelist, what the bible does forbid is disco and dancing as a means of corprate worship. not to say that disco and dancing in themselves is wrong but not as worship this is strainge fire. God commands us to sing psalms hymms and spiritual songs Col 3:16.

I would like to introduce you to the Regulative prinapal of Worship.

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Thank you for reading and going to my website //www.geocities.com/swpubs/revivaldisco.html

Second, I think you are trying to make an excuse to buy alcohol, and support people to help get filled with evil drunkard spirits when you say , Infact God commands us to buy booze Duet. 14:26.
You must learn rightly to divide the Word of God, because the devil can take the bible and turn the scripture around to decieve you in doing something that is not God`s will.
If this was really a command from God I think every church would have a bar, or liquor store at the front door of the church so we can be obedeint children of God and support the liquor business.
Drinking alchohol is a form of temptation, and the bible says something about staying away from any form of evilness, abstain from evil. I think this verse is in 1 thess 5:22.

Do you know what people was being spoken to in deut and what law were they under????

I know the christian liberty is in the spirit of the Lord, and that we are not bond by the law which you have pointed out , but we are free, because we live by the spirit.
Ga:5:18: But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Ga:5:25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

But we have still people living out of the will of God when they get in the flesh like doing these things , including drunkeness, which is started by somebody buying alchohol.

Ga:5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Ga:5:20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Ga:5:21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

This is why I have a disco without alchohol,drugs, and no smoking, because it can do harm to our temples, which do not belong to us any ways.

clash_city_rockers, I think you are forgetting that we are living in the year 2002, and God has anointed other tools as well to win the lost .

If you read my website, you will see scripture I wrote protaining to dancing, and music.
I mention that David danced, and he dance out of his clothes, but for joy.
We dance in the revival disco as for a testimony, and Joy that we are saved, and that, we have eternal life with Jesus, and that we have peace and overflow of happyness.
When people come to the disco, and really it not in a disco teck like you think, but the disco is in our old church building that holds only about 300 people.
We have people getting saved ,and born again on the dance floor, and people set free from demonic religions, and healed by dancing in our revival disco.
That is why we called it revival, because people do come alive again and they find their first love in Jesus. We are the only disco in Germany right now that is serving no alchohol, and the power of God is moving with sign and wounders.
Drug user come and get free from drug addiction , from hearing preaching in the revival disco, and the testimony of others.
The disco is also on television, and I hope very soon you can watch on your internet.
If you what to see a little of the disco now , you can by this link I will give you .
This was an guest speaker that came to us and preached , and he has the gift to cast out demons.
I`ll let you judge for yourself, and you see if this is from God or not, praise God.

You might have to click in where it says Jay in Kassel Germany .
I think I will ask others about this vision I had from God to start this revival disco, on a new post, maybe you can give some more opinion on the disco.

Here is the link www.deliveranceradio.com

God Bless you
peace

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God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

A JHW said he would believe that God is Jesus or Jesus is God if there was more bible verses directly saying God is Jesus, more than Jesus is the Son only.

The bible says:Joh:14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So If JHW are looking for the truth, why don`t they go to Jesus, and follow Jesus way?????

This is a big Question special if Jesus said this.

God bless

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God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

Quote by Earnest

My entire argument is that God does not expect us to perform “powerful works” in order to prove the truth and the use of this verse to suggest he does lacks authenticity. If the truth of who God is cannot be determined by his Word then no amount of miracles is going to do so.

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I can`t really agree with you about this because the bible says something different about this.
let check out what the bible says about miracles, and performance in powerful works.

Ac:1:8: But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Why do you think the bible says we recieve power???
I think God know that if he has given us power we will use it for his glory.

M't:10:7: And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
M't:10:8: Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

M't:28:18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
M't:28:19: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
M't:28:20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Lu:10:1: After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
Lu:10:2: Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
Lu:10:3: Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

Lu:10:17: And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
Lu:10:18: And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Lu:10:19: Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Lu:10:20: Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Lu:10:21: In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Joh:14:12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Look Jesus said; those that believe like us will do works like Jesus raising the dead , heal the sick, help other to be set free from demons, and the greatest miricle is to see somebody get saved and born again.

Even Moses used God powers to show Pharaoh ,and convince that Moses had the true Go, I AM jehovah God, through signs and wounders

Ex:4:1: And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee.
Ex:4:2: And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
Ex:4:3: And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.
Ex:4:4: And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:
Ex:4:5: That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.
Ex:4:6: And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
Ex:4:7: And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.
Ex:4:8: And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.
Ex:4:9: And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land.
Ex:4:10: And Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.
Ex:4:11: And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
Ex:4:12: Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.
Ex:4:13: And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.
Ex:4:14: And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.
Ex:4:15: And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.
Ex:4:16: And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
Ex:4:17: And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs.

samson had powers to show that God anointing was on him.J'g:14:5: Then went Samson down, and his father and his mother, to Timnath, and came to the vineyards of Timnath: and, behold, a young lion roared against him.
J'g:14:6: And the Spirit of the LORD came mightily upon him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done.

Lu:4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

M'r:16:17: And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
M'r:16:18: They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

many people followed Jesus because of his powers, and wounders, and Jesus said we can do the same and greater works, so we will have others wanting what we have , and see the powers that God has given us, that why we are light for this world.

God bless you

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God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

The truth of the matter is that even if you don't accept the last part of the book of Mark, it doesn't prove anything.

Personally, I just add this to the list of excuses that people use to try to discredit the very clear teachings of the Bible. People just can't deal with the truth sometimes, so they are left with 3 basic choices:

Pervert the clear meaning of that verse - For example, by looking for the conditions of salvation in the part that speaks about condemnation, while igoring the part of the verse that deals with salvation.

Try to discredit the verse's legitemacy - This can never be fully proven. There's evidence on both sides. The text doesn't appear in some of the manuscripts while it does in others.

Ignore the verse - Sometimes it's easy to pretend like a verse doesn't exist.

To be honest, it's quite pathetic that Mark 16:16 is debated so much like it is. There's no rocket science about that verse. Anybody can see that there are two requirements listed before salvation. The Bible doesn't try to hide them, it says they are belief and baptism. People can either accept what it says, or not accept what it says. Simple.

Let me ask you a question, and you can just answer this to yourself. If you are interested in computers, and you have two books in front of you, one that's about computers and one that is about pottery, which book are you going to read to learn more about computers? Easy question.

Now, if you are interested in salvation, and a verse deals with two things: salvation and condemnation, which part are you going to look at for your answer?

Something tells me that you would choose the book on computers for the purpose of learning more about computers. Sadly, however, something else tells me that you will continue to read the part of the verse that deals with condemnation when you are looking for the answer to salvatioin.

Funny how that works. Basic human reasoning, for the most part, works just fine when we are dealing with worldly things. But for some people, reasoning goes on a vacation when dealing with the clear word of God. Pride is a terrible thing.

peace

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Will this earth be destroy by fire???

by evangelist in

i found scriptures saying that this world will be destroyed by fire.. the question is will this earth be destroyed, or only the system of this world be destroyed???

what is meant by this word fundation in greek??

heb:1:10: and, thou, lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: .

evangelist

The JHW visit my house again and explained that this planet ,or earth will not be destroyed bacause the bible says this:Ec:1:4: One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
AND
Psalms:104:5: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

What do you think this mean???
Does the bible contradicts itself ???

God Bless

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Will this earth be destroy by fire???

by evangelist in

i found scriptures saying that this world will be destroyed by fire.. the question is will this earth be destroyed, or only the system of this world be destroyed???

what is meant by this word fundation in greek??

heb:1:10: and, thou, lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: .

evangelist

What is meant the foundation of the world , will be destroy?????

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Will this earth be destroy by fire???

by evangelist in

i found scriptures saying that this world will be destroyed by fire.. the question is will this earth be destroyed, or only the system of this world be destroyed???

what is meant by this word fundation in greek??

heb:1:10: and, thou, lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: .

evangelist

I found scriptures saying that this world will be destroyed by fire.

The question is will this earth be destroyed, or only the system of this world be destroyed???

What is meant by this word fundation in greek??
Heb:1:10: And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Heb:1:11: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

They said that God will not destroy what is good , and the earth was not bad only the people .

i believe that the glory of God will burn this earth because this natural earth can with stand the Holy fire of God , and that why Jesus is preparing a new place for us so we can live forever in the Glory of God.
Re:21:1: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Many JHW even said ,that when the flood came .the earth was not destroy, and the earth was only under the water so God will never destroy the earth because it is good .

here is some more scriptures:

Mal:4:1: For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal:4:2: But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal:4:3: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

2Pe:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe:3:11: Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe:3:13: Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

What is meant by element in this verse???

the next important question is after the world is gone , will the christian live in heaven with our father Jesus????????
I hope I can get some good opinions and facts, about this matter,and belief.

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God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

Earnest
As I speak to the Jehovah witness they try to teach me the same , that Mark 16 doesn`t belong to the bible.

i see it that this is A chapter that attacks their doctrine about healing , and proof that we can lay hands on the sick and get healed, bccause the JHW doesn`t believe healing is today .
The next thing is that Mark proves that we somebody believes and get baptized they are saved, and this attacks their doctrine on hard works for earn salvation and give out their new papers.

Somethiong is wrong here, and it looks like JHW are trying to steal, and take away from the bible.

peace

178

God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

Earnest

How do you know this is true, what a man says about Mark???

Isn`t God strong enough to hold His words togther ???

I don`t believe the bible is like the Koran with missing parts, and added parts.

peace

178

God is Jesus

by evangelist in

i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.

this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.

my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.

evangelist

funkeyderek

you said:But the book of Mark was written decades after 2 Timothy. Surely neither Paul nor his audience would have considered it scripture. Or does it mean that anything ever written, past or future, true or false, is to be consdidered scripture?

Quote c.moore
wasn`t 2 Tim written in´AD 67 ????

and was Mark written in AD 29-33 ??????

I thought only the book from the catholic bible was not Holy scriptures.

God bless