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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

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  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  And I know witnesses who are resisting in ways you have mentioned. It is very said to see families blacklisted (in the sense that privileges are witheld from them) because of going to university but it is truly wonderful when they finish their education. Young people are resisting getting baptized early and then not getting baptized at all.

  We don't clap when talks are disgraceful and believe me they often are. I also tell everyone who asks that I am enjoying my education.

  Excellent work soft+gentle. You are a silent but powerful testimony that resistance is possible. And if they withhold priviledges that's Ok. Leaders can only lead if there are followers.
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

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  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  About the best you can hope for is wasting hounders' time and resources.

  Even that is a powerful way to resist. If 30% of the congregation engaged in tactics that would result in wasting "hounders'" time and resources that's a great way to wear them down. If an elder has to call 30 publishers 3 times before he can get a field service report from them that's 90 calls. If the elder tries to bring the hammer down on them they can just claim to be supper busy, stressed out, struggling due to Satan's super-demanding system, apologize, say they'll ask Jehovah to help them do better. They're not going to disfellowship for not turning in your time slip on time.

  Terry had a great post about how to deal with being confronted by the elders.
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  New Sparlock (TM) action figure collectibles? Ideas.

  by AnnOMaly in

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  sparlocktm can't be on his own.

  he needs some wizardy comrades, right?

  sherlock - the logical one with an inbuilt bs meter;.

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  LOL @ Timebandit. Stupid, but funny.
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

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  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  Interesting opinion Dontplaceliterature. I'm not saying the regime would be open to it. I'm saying it can happen despite what they say. Just like there are JWs that still talk to their disfellowshipped loved ones, despite what the regime says. Just like there are JWs who go to college and send their kids to college, despite what the regime says. Just like there are JWs who have "wordly" friends, despite what the regime says. Just like there are JW's reading this "apostate" website, despite what the regime says.
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  BIRTHDAYS ARE IMPORTANT!!!

  by minimus in

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  and today's mine..

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  On behalf of Queenwitch
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  BIRTHDAYS ARE IMPORTANT!!!

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  and today's mine..

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  Hermano

  Happy Birthday!!!
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  Sapphy and hoser you guys have both arrived at the critical question of how? "The great problem is how do we all tell the truth without being put under sanctions by the watchtower?" It has to happen very slowly. I keep thinking back to the elder I mentioned previously. He never said anything that seemed subversive. He was always very peaceful, very loving. And yet somehow, there was an ease about him. A lack of judgement? Maybe he just seemed so meek that no one would consider him a threat...

  Maybe it has to start with your family. If you're in and fading instead of trying to get your family out, why not try to get them to be a bit more moderate instead?

  I think Cedars survey was a great idea because it was a way for Witnesses to know that others felt the way they did.
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  Yes Designs, there are traps. But all empires fall eventually. Sometimes the fall comes at the hands of an enemy. Sometime it comes from within, despite the checks and balances set forth by those in power. The GB is a regime. And regimes can be toppled. Yes, it's risky. Yes people die trying. But it happens.
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  Hermano

  I get where you are coming from Hermano, but it will never happen.

  I don't know about that. Never is a long time. I'm just saying the same thing your username is saying: Don't place literature. They can't disfellowship you for that. The way to really get to control freaks is to deny them control.
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  I wish there were more JW's resisting the extreme elements within the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish there were more jw's resisting the extreme elements within the religion.

  i beleive there are many who know some of the things they hear and read are whack, but stay because they think it's still the group god has chosen.

  but there are ways to voice your opinion without being too vocal or disassociating:.

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  Hermano

  And yet, designs, there are some who manage to pull it off. I know JWs who speak to their loved ones who are shunned.

  What if those JWs managed to communicate and find solace with others who also speak to their loved ones?

  What if many JWs realized that there are many others amongst them who think it's ridiculous that they can't talk to their own family members?

  What if there were some elders who felt this way?

  What if there were some bethel heavies who felt this way?

  What if there were some governing body members who felt this way? According to Ray Franz when the GB meets they don't all agree. So I don't think this is a far-fetched idea.

  Now, what if all those people realized that many others within the org feel the same way they do?