i don't think i am an apostate, but do feel like one for being on these boards as we were always warned not to at the meetings etc.. i disagree with so many things they teach, the main thing is the blood issue....being a new auntie, i love my niece soooo much and if i were the only person that could save her, how on earth could i not?
i'd be blood guilty for not saving her!!!!!
that in my books, would be murder.. however, may be it's because i've only been away from the mtgs for a year, but i still think of it most days and although i feel i've made the right decision as nothing was making me happy in it, and obvioulsy my ex beating me and getting away with it.....i still feel a certain pull towards it and a kind of insane loyalty???.
Hello Brother Mad,
There you are! I've been looking for you. I find you to be a fascinating character. Your presence on this apostate discussion forum is very welcome. The very fact that you spend so much time here gives me hope that you may find some resolution to the doubts and concerns that you surely harbor regarding Jehovah's Witnesses.
Sincerely hoping that you find whatever it is you're looking for on an apostate website,
Love and respect,
Nvr
i don't think i am an apostate, but do feel like one for being on these boards as we were always warned not to at the meetings etc.. i disagree with so many things they teach, the main thing is the blood issue....being a new auntie, i love my niece soooo much and if i were the only person that could save her, how on earth could i not?
i'd be blood guilty for not saving her!!!!!
that in my books, would be murder.. however, may be it's because i've only been away from the mtgs for a year, but i still think of it most days and although i feel i've made the right decision as nothing was making me happy in it, and obvioulsy my ex beating me and getting away with it.....i still feel a certain pull towards it and a kind of insane loyalty???.
I'm a firm believer in reality. If it's real, I believe in it. If I once believed in something, and later found that it was not reality-based, I really don't want to believe in it anymore. Reality is the best place to live. It's not always pretty, but then again neither are we. If believing as I have described makes me an apostate, then yes, I proudly am an apostate. I have apostasized from the imaginary to embrace reality.
Nvr
how did the kangaroo, the koala bear, and the platypus get from noah's ark to australia?
how did any animals get to australia for that matter?i know that this has been considered before but i just love asking jws this question.. nvr.
Great question jeanv!
You're shaping up into quite the little apostate.
Nvr
i still have a hard time wrapping my brain around this.
for example why do so many believe in the bible when ample proof exists that negats its validaty?
why not believe in zeus or jupitor, etc.
Thank you Madame,
I enjoyed Jon Carroll's musings.
I hate to sound like a broken record and I've mentioned this previously on other posts, but I think The Church of Reality website would be to your liking.
Nvr
Mad writes: You may be right as far as "They are far less consequential as an organization"- but on nothing else. If you REALLY think it's difficult to exit- then Evolution just might be true! (That WAS sarcasm!)
Thank you for your kind reply Brother Mad. It's a pleasure to have you here. (that WAS NOT sarcasm!)
Sincerely hoping you find whatever it is you're looking for on an apostate website,
Nvr
P.S.- I'm glad we agree on something. That's a great start.
| nvrgnbk | Re: How is the Good News going to be preached Earthwide- if it's not by JWS? | 10-Mar-07 17:28 |
Post 276 of 276 since 19-Feb-07 | Jehovah's Witnesses are irrelevant. They are a non-factor in human society, just one more in a long line of post-millenial Protestant groups. They are far less consequential as an organization than they are indoctrinated to believe by their leadership. Having said that, the org. has affected thousands who have, due to parental upbringing, savvy recruitment campaigns, etc. found themselves involved in a high-control group difficult to exit. For that reason, JWD exists. | |
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Jehovah's Witnesses are irrelevant. They are a non-factor in human society, just one more in a long line of post-millenial Protestant groups. They are far less consequential as an organization than they are indoctrinated to believe by their leadership.
Having said that, the org. has affected thousands who have, due to parental upbringing, savvy recruitment campaigns, etc. found themselves involved in a high-control group difficult to exit. For that reason, JWD exists.
i still have a hard time wrapping my brain around this.
for example why do so many believe in the bible when ample proof exists that negats its validaty?
why not believe in zeus or jupitor, etc.
If the eye can not see reality, it sees fallacy.
Expounding upon j's keen observation, I submit that religion is the very antithesis of reality.
Nvr
questions from readers w07 jan 15 p.30.
in what sense did the congregator find only "one man out of a thousand" but not "a woman among all these"?
- ecclesiastes 7:28. the answer is written out in 3 paragraphs.. paragraph 1: placatory remarks to show that jehovah god is not chief misogynist.. paragraph 2 & 3:.
I sincerely hope that the GB continues to publish this sort of information. Every irrelevant, out-of-touch, absurd piece of half-baked sermonizing they present will contribute to a steady, albeit slow, exodus from their organization. There is no way that the younger generation of Witnesses will be able to swallow this rhetoric for very much longer.
Nvr
nu 31:17-18 moses, following the lord's command, orders the israelites to kill all the midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (note: how would it be determined which women had known men?
one can only speculate.
dt 21:10-13 with the lord's approval, the israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
Don't mind Mad. He is hard of hearing and seems incapable of heeding his mother's pleadings to stay away from the naughty, naughty apostate boys and girls.
Hello Mad, This discussion forum constitutes a support group for the thousands of publishers that have suffered in one way or another due to the antics of the self-appointed Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Some here were disfellowshipped, some disassociated themselves. Yet others simply walked away because they felt they couldn't stay for one second more. Others prefer a slow fade. Some who read or lurk here are currently elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, Bethelites, etc. Some may lead an immoral lifestyle according to your personal standards, others are more morally fastidious than many JWs. Some are atheists, others agnostics, many non-denominational Christians, and quite a few undecided in matters of faith. I'm sure I'm leaving out quite a few. If you like spending time here with this fascinating group of courageous individuals you're very welcome to do so.
Love and respect,
Nvr
P.S.- The egomaniacal are also welcome, so you'll fit right in.
