I doubt either of you (hooberus or Burns) has ever even bothered to read Roe V Wade...
What the both of you are basically saying is this... to hell with debating when a human believes life begins, it doesn't matter when anyone thinks a fertilized egg actually takes on the attributes that makes that egg a human, we know whats best for all of you, we know that life begins... fill in the blank (with whatever Hooberus and Burns thinks)... all of you are too dumb to think for yourselves is the tact of Hooberus and Burns, We'll do all the thinking for you...
And, here's the kicker, you that don't conform are basically like terrorists... you are murderers.
That just about sum it up guys? I think I'm on the mark, right?
I've read Roe, I can see where the Justices that ruled on abortion got their thinking. I'm not saying I totally agree with what they ruled, but I can see where they are coming from.
Dialogue between folks like Burns and Hooberus is out of the question, they've made their minds up and they are right, no one else need form an opinion of their own, because geniuses Burns and Hooberus have done the thinking for all of us. Sorry guys, but that's not how societies work. I know you wish you could dictate to us your morals but we've chosen to be free from your dictatorship... sorry
Now, I have a question for the both of you...
1) When does life begin, and I mean here when are the protections of the Constitution to be levied to the unborn?
2) the intent of this thread is to show that Palin is against abortion in the case of rape and incest, do the two of you agree with Palin?
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
Your posting from the NRTLA, is ignored Hooberus, and it honestly begs the question as to your intentions and total lack of objectivity...
I've asked for a objective source and you've given me the interpretation of Illinois law from the national right to life web site... come on man, get real and show me that you have the courage to see through your blindness.
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Wrecking of United States of America
by BurnTheShips ini am almost shaking as i write this for what is happening to the capital markets, this country, and the free world.
the impact of the past two weeks' action in the financial markets, if not reversed by cooler heads, will have irreparably changed the world in a way that only terrorist attacks and acts of war have in the past.. .
nationalizing fannie mae and freddie mac, providing an emergency quasi-legal bridge loan to aig, temporarily banning short-selling on all stocks in the us, and instituting an rtc-type entity to handle the toxic waste of the financial system is economic violence on a grand scale.. .
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All that you who have written about greed is true, and folks like Burns who ignore history and still cling to the worn out and dis proven theory that a market based on greed can self regulate, have lost their minds.
There have been so many examples the last 150 years in US history that markets based on greed fail, it's mind boggling that people like Burns continue to argure for deregulation... Honestly, it's down right insane! -
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
I watched the video, a CBN video non the less, far from a source that is unbiased.... He says he doesn't support letting any child who's born alive to not be saved.
Here's the video...
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/429328.aspx
I can only take the man for his word, I am ignorant of the many laws in the State in which he's from, I do not know if what's he's saying is true or not... I just don't know...
I most certainly do NOT trust sources that are attacking the man,so I'm left with no option but to listen to the man himself; he says he doesn't support letting born infants die...
The end, nothing left to be said...
I haven't seen any video other than the ones where Sarah Palin says with her own mouth that she would support an amendment that would outlaw abortion even in the case of rape and incest...
You are far from a person that I trust to make a unbiased research of this subject Burns, I've seen the man say himself the reasons he didn't support the bill. I'll damn well take him at his word over anything you've got to say about the subject... you are far from unbiased, and certainly not objective about anything... period!
I've known personally many people who are pro choice, most of them agree with Roe v Wade... I've read Roe V Wade and can understand how the court come to the decision they did... some if it was about the viability of life to live outside the womb and the so called quickening. But even the most ardent supporter of abortion would find allowing living babies to die outside the womb repulsive.
I don't know anyone that would support such a thing, Obama says he doesn't support such a thing... I';; take him for his word unless you can give repudiate sources that says he willing to let newborns die. -
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
He knows he can make these egregious remarks at the end of a thread and not get caught... sad really...
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
See, six of nine... that's why he won't start a thread on this subject... he knows the ass kicking he'll get when the facts are reveled.
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
That's what I thought... if I don't see evidence this is true, then what else am I supposed to make of it?
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
Where's the thread you're starting about this hooberus? I think you need to air this out in a public forum as I can't find facts to back what you're saying... I'm not saying it isn't true, I just can t find repudiate sources.
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
Here's what you nuts on the right refuse to see, I don't defend stupid actions, be they committed by either a Democrat or a Republican...
I already answered your question Hooberus, you're trying to play "got ya" with someone too damn smart to be got.
If Obama supported this then all you've done is prove to all of us that we have a group of damned idiots to vote for this year... that's not a reflection on me whatsoever, it's a reflection on this nation.
I immediately said what Obama did was foolish, what more could you want? If he did that, I'll have to chose which group of fools is the least foolish, it'll make my decision that much harder, that's all, it will be nothing new as I seem to do that every time I vote. -
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"Life Begins at Rape"- Palin Policy
by SixofNine ini suppose that when most of us who are fortunate not to have been the victim of sexual assault hear the word "rape kit", we tend to think of it specifically in terms of forensic analysis and examination--dna collection, trauma, that whole sort of thing.
but rape kits also contain...emergency contraception.. .
to quote from an alaska blogger who has provided a firsthand account of the aftermath of a sexual assault in wasilla: .
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dawg
Hooberus, if what you've posted is true, it's an outrage....
But you need to start your own thread, it's off subject of nut job Palin...
This thread is about rape kits, abortion after rape etc...
I'd be interested to see the facts on what you've posted... if it's true, then that not good for Obama's side either.