Hi Larc:
Interesting! Does this calc. take into account a factor for death?
Expatbrit
avg.
pubs in 2001 service year[ usa] 945,689 compared to 945,000 avg.
in 2000.. total baptized in 2001 service year 28,239 compared to the 28,475 in 2000.
Hi Larc:
Interesting! Does this calc. take into account a factor for death?
Expatbrit
if jehovahs witnesses have problems,then is there anything better you have too offer?.
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i would be happy too know of a religion,website or something else that helps you in your life.
abcde:
If you are drinking something, and someone comes along and points out to you reasons why what you are drinking is poisonous, do you begin berating them because they do not offer you something else to drink instead?
Of course not. As a responsible adult, you consider what they have to say, and if you find it to be correct, you stop drinking that particular drink. But as an adult, you recognise that it is still your responsibility to find something else to drink, if you remain thirsty.
Similarly, if someone points out to you reasons why your current religion is harmful, as a responsible adult you consider these reasons, and if you find them to be correct, obviously you leave that religion. But it remains your responsibility to find another religion, should you desire that aspect of life.
In short, stand on your own two feet and stop expecting others to provide for your religious wants.
Expatbrit
i am looking for some people to talk to.
i have no friends and i do know why.
people are very judgmental about the way i look.
Hi Vernisha:
Welcome to the discussion board. As others have said, most of the people you will meet here are former members of the Jehovah's Witnesses. One of the main reasons a lot of us left is because of the "conditional" friendship we saw as Jehovah's Witnesses. That is, a form of friendship based merely on your agreement with their accepted religious doctrines, rather than a real friendship based on who you are.
I'll not go so far as to say that you shouldn't check out the Witnesses. That is your decision to make. My advice though is to research very, very carefully before making a commitment you may regret in future. Changing or adopting a religion, particularly an intense religion such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, is a fundamental, life-changing decision, not to be rushed into.
So, having said that, please feel welcome to stick around, ask questions and join in our laughter (and sometimes shouting, but that's life!). I have found, and I'm sure you will too, that there are many fine people here who make excellent friends.
Expatbrit
alright, you wordsmiths, let's see how many of these you get!
1. badmash .
a) a hooligan or evildoer.
Alright, you wordsmiths, let's see how many of these you get!
1. Badmash
a) A hooligan or evildoer. Brought to the UK from India.
b) Treacherous or boggy conditions found on moorland.
c) The spoil from a potato crop.
2. Bashment
a) A large dance or party, originated in the West Indies.
b) A severe or prolonged physical attack. First used in Elizabethan England.
c) The area of turf or underbrush trampled by advancing troops. Now exists as the phrase for marching practice “square bashing”.
3. Boffola
a) The offspring of domesticated cattle that have mated with North American buffalo or European bison.
b) A bribe offered in return for a boxer or wrestler to throw a bout.
c) A joke which gets a loud or hearty laugh.
4. Burnsides
a) Hot-tasting pod of the Capsicum anuum first imported to the UK in the 17th Century and soon becoming fashionable in the cooking of that era.
b) A moustache and whisker combination popularised by General Ambrose Burnside (1824-81).
c) The brick steps built into grand Victorian chimneys to give footing to child sweeps.
5. Flocculent
a) An extreme state of distress and anger.
b) To suffer from excessive generation of mucus or phlegm.
c) An object made from, having or resembling tufts of wool.
6. Gyre
a) A small grey-headed member of the crow family, greatly prized on the Tudor dinner table. Now more commonly called a Jackdaw.
b) To whirl or “gyrate”. Eg: “The slithy tothes did gyre and gimble.” L. Carroll, Jabberwocky.
c) The heap of combustible material used as a base for Norse funeral fires.
7. Inunct
a) The act of applying an ointment to something or someone.
b) To restore or resurrect an obsolete, broken or “defunct” item or custom.
c) To garble or mispronounce a word.
8. Oxter
a) A spit or skewer to cook meat. From the Norse “oxen turn”.
b) The Old English for armpit. The word’s use persisted in Scotland and northern England.
c) A 19th Century ne’r do well or ruffian, originating in London’s East End.
9. Patulous
a) A comment, quip or putdown obviously prepared in advance. Supposedly coined by Oscar Wilde’s protégé Lord Alfred “Bosie" Douglas.
b) A rare and poetic adjective for ‘spreading’. Eg: “Underneath the patulous chestnut tree.”
c) To be bulky or corpulent. Eg: “Augustus Snodgrass is as gouty and patulous a fellow as I,” said Mr. Pickwick. C. Dickens, The Pickwick Papers.
10. Wabbit
a) To feel exhausted or ever so slightly unwell. Of uncertain origin, but used mostly in Scotland.
b) A North American rodent hunted to extinction in the 1950s. Eg: “Sssh! I’m hunting wabbit.”
c) A popular dance of the 1920s which combined waltz steps with a small jump on every fourth beat.
Answers:
1:A
2:A
3:C
4:B
5:C
6:B
7:A
8:B
9:B
10:A
How did you do?:
0-3: I hope you’re erubescent at such a nescient performance.
4-6: You require adscititious study if you are to escape being branded a hoddy-noddy.
7-10: Your grasp of the arcane is coruscant, but don’t get too orgulous about it.
Source: BBC
Expatbrit
hey there, i'm brand new obviously...i was raised as a witness but left 2 years ago, and my buddy *i think he goes by skiingcowboy on this board* sent me this link.. i was just wondering if there were any other gothies on the board.
:)
Is that Visigoth or Ostrogoth?
Expatbrit, saxon class
well, a post on the good ol days got me thinking about the vehicles people drive and why.
in the jws, a vehicle had to be appropriate for service, four doors, holding at least five.
i remember back in 1978 i bought an mgb and the brothers had a fit (hehe), i was selfish, etc.,.
I drive this because I'm a boring accountant: http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/*preview?recnum=001651&UserID=
i was speaking with a man the other night on yahoo and he gave me a few verses to compare.. a while back i gave my copy of the nwt to a friend who came in contact with jw's quit often and wanted to used it to compare scriptures.
anyway, could someone please look up these scriptures and compare them to the nwt and post the differences?
i was told that the nwt omits parts of these verses.. matthew 18:11 luke 4:8 john 8:9 acts 8:37/23.9 romans 13:9. thanks in advance.. "i don't want someone in my life i can live with, i want someone in my life i can't live without.
Does anyone else remember using the scripture that in the King James version says shambles and in the New World Translation says meat market to sell NWTs?
I remember that! All those meeting parts denigrating the King James Version used to piss me off!
"Oh how understandable and clear the NWT is, compared to that nasty unclear King James!"
I used to feel like shouting: "why don't you make a frickin' effort and look some of the words up in a d-i-c-t-i-o-n-a-r-y!!!!"
Or I used to spend fruitless hours trying to point out that the King James version was written in the English of the time, and was therefore just as clear to it's 17th century readers as any modern bible is to us. Therefore using understandability as a comparison was an unfairly sloped playing field.
To me, the King James version with it's graceful and majestic language captures the sense of religious joy in a way that the bland drone of the NWT never will.
Expatbrit
here's some assorted naff bollocks from this article in the november km:.
in his first talk, entitled "safeguard spirituality by training your perceptive powers," the visiting speaker explained that those in the world cannot distinguish right from wrong.
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Here's some assorted naff bollocks from this article in the November km:
In his first talk, entitled "Safeguard Spirituality by Training Your Perceptive Powers," the visiting speaker explained that those in the world cannot distinguish right from wrong. (Isa. 5:20,21) This is due to their refusal to acknowledge and observe God's righteous standards. In contrast, we who have received spiritual training in Jehovah's organization recognize God's standards, which serve to guide our activities and conduct. Thus, we are in a position to prove to ourselves what is good and acceptable in Jehovah's eyes and what is in accord with his perfect will.-Rom. 12:2.
To avoid the world's confused thinking and consequent bad fruitage, we must continually train our perceptive powers. How is this accomplished? As recorded at Hebrews 5:12-14, the apostle Paul emphasized the need to feed on more than just the "milk" of the word. We need solid spiritual food, such as we are reciving in the study of Isaiah's prophecy at the Congregation Book Study. Then we must readily apply in our lives what we learn. When we do so, we are convinced of the rightness of Jehovah's principles and standards. This trains our perceptive powers to distinguish clearly both right and wrong.
Sad to say, some have faltered spiritually. Why? They have not focused their attention on what is good and upright in Jehovah's eyes. As a result, they have fallen victim to radio and television talk shows with Scripturally objectionable content, to debasing music, or to bad influences in computer chat rooms. By acting wisely, we will avoid being influenced by immoral, stupid, or wicked men.-Prov. 13:20; Gal. 5:7; 1 Tim. 6:20,21.
'Should I adopt a certain style of dress and grooming?' The world's faddish trends in clothing and grooming often reflect a spirit of rebellion. Such a spirit influences people to dress shoddily and unattractively or to flaunt sexuality. What relevant Bible principles will help us to counteract such tendencies? Having trained our perceptive powers, we will take into consideration the principle found at 1 Timothy 2: 9,10, to dress "with modesty and soundness of mind...., in the way that befits [people] professing to reverance God." Other principles that apply include those mentioned at 2 Corinthians 6:3 and Colossians 3:18,20.
There's more, ad nauseum, but I can't stomach typing it.
Expatbrit, undistinguishing-refusing-confused-bad fruit bearing-unconvinced-unperceiving-faltering-unfocused-debased-badly influenced-unwise-immoral-stupid-wicked-faddish-rebellious-shoddy-unattractive-sexuality flaunting-unsound minded-stuff it you Watch Tower thought-police!! class
statement dn030.
the world and national councils of churches .
according to the constitution of the world council of churches (wcc), their first function is "to call the churches to the goal of visible unity in one faith and in one eucharistic fellowship..." the national council of churches (ncc) has a similar goal.
Bttt.
The email would appear to be conclusive. Yet Jemimah's original post indicated that he had seen documentary evidence to show dealings between the WCC and the WT.
Jemimah: Is there any way of giving further info. on this? It would be a shame if there was a connection and we all missed it.
If there's stuff going on that I don't know about, just email me and tell me to bugger off!
Expatbrit
on the guidestar page for the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, the contact name is given as aaron chandler.. does anyone have any information on this guy?
specifically, is he english?.
if you do not wish to post info.
On the Guidestar Page for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, the contact name is given as Aaron Chandler.
Does anyone have any information on this guy? Specifically, is he English?
If you do not wish to post info. please feel free to email me. Thanks!
Expatbrit