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  According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

  2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

  these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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  flipper

  Considering the ABC news report is on tonight regarding Candace Conti- wanted to bump this thread up as I've noticed several of us from the board have already made comments on the ABC news link concerning the seriousness of child abuse. It's an important topic to keep bringing up to JW's and non-JW's so they can see the extent of damage that WT Society's criminal liability is causing. Bring it on
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  Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .

  by jhine in

  1. social
  2. humour

  lots of serious stuff being discussed on site .

  i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.

  come on now share yours.

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  flipper

  Here's another one , I'm sure some of you have heard it before- but you said to share even the corny ones.

  The Native American Chief was walking with his son one day and his son asked him, "Father how did we children get our names ? " Chief said, " Well son, your mother and I named you after things we saw happening when you were conceived. For instance your little sister over there Running Fawn - we saw a running fawn during time of conception so we called her " Running Fawn " . Your brother over there Lone Buck - we saw a lone buck during time of conception so we called him " Lone Buck " . " The chief looked at his son and continued, " Just out of curiosity - why are you asking me this Busted Rubber ? " Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

  2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

  these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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  flipper

  VIDIOT- Very true. Anything that's in " Satan's " world that comes up negative towards the WT Society is perceived to be unbelievable by JW's. We could present them with TONS of facts- and they'll still claim it's not true. WT indoctrination at it's worst
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  Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .

  by jhine in

  1. social
  2. humour

  lots of serious stuff being discussed on site .

  i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.

  come on now share yours.

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  flipper

  A man goes to a psychiatrist and says, " Doc- I think I'm a dog ! I'm growling, barking, scratching- grrrrr.... - I just can't stop ! " Doc says, " You've got a real problem. Come sit down on my couch and tell me about it. " Man says, " I can't - I'm not allowed on the couch. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  flipper

  My 30 year old son and me get shunned by my two JW daughters aged 28 and 26 . And yes it hurts, yes it affects us psychologically. They've shunned us for 11 years now. I cannot even watch T.V. programs that deal with fathers having a close, good relationship with their daughters when it shows them hugging or being close- because I usually start tearing up or start crying due to my personal loss of my daughters. So I'll change the channel or watch something else. The WT Society IS as evil as those who took part in the inquisitions ; it's just another form of psychological terrorism . Needs to be stopped
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  According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

  2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

  these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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  GONE AND FORGOTTEN- You make a very good point. How could a man be appointed as an elder if he doesn't have a good reputation inside or outside the congregation - as the WT Society CLAIMS to follow the Bible in making appointments ? You are right those records are available for all to see. Problem is - is that elders or the GB don't bother to look at the records because they just don't care. They set their OWN standards for who gets appointed elder and who does not. I would venture to say that child molesters stand a better chance getting appointed elders these days than apostates or even still-in JW's who are independent thinkers who have doubts. As you say it's hypocritical of the WT Society to point fingers at the Catholic church then do even worse things themselves. WT is a criminal organization
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  Child Abuse Trials

  by Garrett in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm currently working something up to share with a few people.

  i was wondering if anyone knew the current number (estimation) of child abuse cases that are going on (that we know about)?

  i don't get much time to be on here right now but it seems that cases are sprouting everywhere.

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  As the scan shows regarding United Kingdom about 27 and from what I've read about 25 to 30 in the United States right now with several different law firms working on these cases. So that's just two countries that I'm aware of- so you can only imagine what's happening in Australia where I've also heard more are coming down the pike and other areas in the world. If we really knew about ALL of them going on - it may be over 100 worldwide - hard to tell. Enough of them going on to cause WT Society some financial and PR concern though. Bad Karma's coming back to bite them where it counts. Peace out , Mr. Flipper
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  According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

  2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

  these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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  flipper

  VIDIOT- Exactly, you are spot on hitting the nail on the head. The " public exposure of it all " as you stated would probably incriminate MANY higher ups within the WT organization and then if THAT became exposed - it could lead to a federal investigation by the U.S. government. Especially if by chance higher ups would possibly be involved in a larger pedophile ring involving organized crime. Think about that for a minute. It would blow the top off of the WT Society . We'd be looking at the " end game " for WT officials. Thus - you are right- IF this is the possible scenario ( and I'm not saying it is ) but IF it's possible - then WT officials would rather settle many child abuse lawsuits than reveal what's in their secret database file. God only knows WHAT are in those files. It's not pretty- I guarantee you that.

  DATA-DOG- Exactly. WT leaders don't want courts OR the federal government snooping around inside their secret files in the database. I think it would be a good thing to get the feds involved. It might hasten the demise of the criminal organization called WT Society
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  According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

  2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

  these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

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  flipper

  Does anybody else have experiences or know of situations in the past where a former child molester has been appointed as an elder or an MS within the JW organization ? It would be interesting to see how often this is happening. So feel free to share your experiences if you heard or know of some. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  important news:.

  here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

  the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

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  flipper

  Thanks for the heads up Barbara, I'll certainly try to catch it