Posts by flipper

49

Worst Fire in California history

by 3rdgen in

jw
friends

in terms of destruction.

52,000 people are evacuated.

started thurs.

flipper

3RDGEN - I know how much you and your husband and all the folks in Redding suffered. It's a horrific, life changing experience to go through. THanks for posting this thread. You guys take care.

WASANELDER- As you know air miles wise Mrs. Flipper and me aren't too far from where you are- just further up the hill. Our family knew some people in this little town and area as we used to visit frequently and we've heard that one of our friends and his dad's property of 40 acres burned on the southern flank of the fire in Butte Valley, but they were able to save all their outbuildings and homes because they did aggressive fire prevention action early this summer by weed eating outlying areas all around their home and buildings. So they were able to put the fires out on the property. We are glad they are safe- however the news this morning said about 38 people are still missing and 9 confirmed dead. Fire is at 100,000 acres and 20 % contained , which is better than yesterday, but some winds are expected to kick up Sunday. Firefighters have to get as much upper hand on this flame today as they can while winds are calm.

But oh my god- over 6,000 homes almost 300 businesses destroyed, it just breaks your heart for all these victims. Channel 3 news out of Sacramento is having a telethon for donations to the fire victims on Monday so I hope lots of people can donate to these poor folks experiencing this.

I wish you the best Wasanelder, stay inside when you can, protect your lungs. We are about 45 to 50 air miles from you up the hill, air isn't real bad like the valley. Stay safe my friend, everybody burn a candle for these victims and everybody STAY fire safe ! This can and has happened to anybody, anywhere in California right now. Just one slip up from P.G. & E. or some idiot camper or smoker dropping a lit match will destroy towns, example in Paradise. Horrendous fire hazards right now. WE need rain in the worst way. Hang in there everybody, Flipper

11

Senior Jehovah's Witness 'sexually abused young girl'

by Tahoe in

jw
friends

*warning: read at your own risk .

thomas brian jenkins .

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/senior-jehovahs-witness-sexually-abused-15375089 .

flipper

ELDER ETTA - Dude, get a life and stop blaming these young child abuse victims for this pig molesting them. Nobody was " out to get you " because you were an " elder" . In the totality of the real world scene- you are giving FAR too much importance that you were an elder and that " young women were waiting " to bring " trumped " ( weird you use the word trump ) up charges against you.

Most child abuse victims over 90 % of them are NOT making up stories. They were actually victims of sexual rape. Believe me, child abuse victims are far more vulnerable than you'll EVER be. Get over yourself. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

30

Simple Question:Why Won’t JWs Just Report Child Abuse As The Law Requires?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i just don’t get it.

it would make their life so much easier!.

flipper

Simple answer : Because the governing body & WT Society leaders do not recognize the laws of the land as having authority over them. They only allow themselves to follow the Bible's 2 witness rule, even though this endangers children. And within that simple answer is that the financial empire the WT Society wishes to protect to keep them financially solvent. Money first, children's welfare way down low on the list of priorities.

In regards to the WT Society's leaders life being made easier by cooperating with authorities in reporting child abuse ? Uh, not really. It would expose them more fully in the wide open light as a criminal organization hiding all of these sexual predators of children and bring MORE attention in the media to WT Society cover ups - just like the media exposed Warren Jeffs and the Mormon's and also how the media exposed the Catholic church even more. Catholic church is still being exposed with all the pedophile priests molesting minor children.

I think WT leaders are intentionally trying to stay on the down low- and they think this will make their life easier . If all the child abuse was fully exposed- we'd see an absolute shit storm of media coverage . I wish that would happen, but WT keeps trying to sidestep and hide in the shadows. We need more Leah Remini's out there exposing these crimes of the WT Society. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

16

Here You Go, Folks! - Leah Remini

by sparky1 in

national television exposure.............. www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-teaser-.

https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/17/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-premiere-.

flipper

Really looking forward to Leah Remini & Mike Rinder coming back with their activism in exposing these cults JW's & Scientology. Very well done program and I'm sure the Jehovah's Witnesses 2 hour program will be done the same with detail, professionalism, and great interviews with Lloyd, Cliff, or whomever else is on there. The main thing is - Jehovah's Witnesses and the WT Society are being exposed for criminal behavior and abuses to their members. Whomever the EX-JW is exposing it doesn't matter ( unless it's Rick Fearon, you don't want him on there - god forbid ) - but most of the other EX-JW's on there would do a great job of exposing this evil cult. Should be a great show ! Go Leah & Mike ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

77

It's a shame isn't it?

by freddo in

jw
friends

... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

flipper

Simon says-

" See how I posted an explanation showing the weakness of your claim " ? That's what winning an argument by using reason looks like. "

Not necessarily. If the explanation is unreasonable it doesn't prove anything. And you haven't won anything if the core of your argument makes no sense. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

77

It's a shame isn't it?

by freddo in

jw
friends

... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

flipper

Quote from Simon - " If their claims were true, they would only require a link " .

That's a false statement. I've supplied many links, you tubes that were reasonable and you've shot them down as " uneducated, misinformed, or stupid " .

So you are accusing others here of using smear tactics - aren't you doing the same thing?

When I post a link that proves my point you are saying it's " out of context " . When YOU post a link it's always " totally believable " . Isn't that the reality of what we are dealing with here? You're willing to cast stones at people that disagree with your comments, because in the end - you always consider your own views correct and not in error . You cannot admit fault. Am I correct ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

77

It's a shame isn't it?

by freddo in

jw
friends

... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

flipper

SIMON- Well, I guess you proved my point when I stated " Stay tuned after my post to see how this comment is responded to . " Considering the fact that you seem to think all Democrats are dumb fucks and not worth arguing with, you've proved the point of Freddo's thread in your last post. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

77

It's a shame isn't it?

by freddo in

jw
friends

... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

flipper

FREDDO- I do agree with the sentiments of your opening post. And I admit I have become pretty heated in political debates on this forum, more than I'd like to. And if I've offended some here, I apologize. I stand up for what I believe in , and I don't care who the fuck argues with me. But when my views get misrepresented , and I realize I'm arguing with ignorant , skewed, narrow, and sometimes quite hateful, insulting viewpoints from individuals - at that point I look at this forum like a television with different channels. I just switch the channel onto more positive threads that won't depress me - such as newbie threads where we can lend support to newly exiting EX-JW's , also threads about exposing the WT Society 's illegal behavior, threads where people need help. Like yourself, I've had about enough of everybody thinking they are an armchair quarterback or some " elitist expert " regarding political viewpoints.

The ones that squawk the loudest and most vitriolic in their comments in my opinion- are the most ignorant. If you know you're right- a person doesn't have to go all 51/50 and ape shit at people just to prove a point. Hey debate is great, but in this era of " Donald Trump manners " or lack thereof- it's emboldened and enabled all the drones to shed decency in having manners and communicating in a civil way. Stay tuned after my post to see how this comment is responded to.

That being said- I will usually participate in more sedated threads where hopefully I like many other great folks on this board can assist exiting JW's in a positive way. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

33

Leah Rimini on Jehovah's Witnesses

by sparky1 in

i just saw an ad last night for this.

it will be televised in november on a&e..

flipper

Great news ! Looking forward to Leah & Mike's show again and congratulations are in order for any EX-JW going on that show and exposing the JW cult as being the criminal organization that it is. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

92

Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

flipper

In my opinion it's absolutely idiotic of WT leaders after all of these millions of $$$$$ in child abuse lawsuits - for them to still not make mandatory reporting to the police by the elders themselves a mandatory policy in their organization.

They claim they " abhor child abuse " however what they show is that WT leaders have no conscience whatsoever and that they " abhor " honestly protecting children. When are WT leaders going to get a clue that if they immediately required their elders to report any accusation of child abuse to police authorities right when they find out about it- it not only might save them millions $$$ in lawsuits, but also would gain back a tiny bit of respect from the media and perhaps their own followers ?

But WT leaders stubbornly bludgeon ahead in their pride and arrogance not complying with reporting laws because they don't want to answer to " Satan's world leaders " or " worldly authorities " . WT Society's pride & arrogance will lead to their eventual downfall. And they will experience bad Karma come crashing down upon their heads. Peace out, Mr. Flipper