Yes indeed , it was an excellent show. Well done and the EX-JW's on it sharing their stories were very sincere, honest, respectful , and dignified. They helped dismiss the illusion that JW's have of EX-JW's that " apostates " are crazy or delusional. These EX-JW's made a hell of a lot more sense than most still in JW's ever will. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Leah remini: Scientology aftermaths latest episode by far one of the best exposes of the watchtower corporation
by UnshackleTheChains ini have to say, having watched the leah remini episode on jehovah's witnesses, i found it to be incredibly powerful.. the shocking stories told by the panelists will reverberate around the world for years to come.
my heart goes out to these people and indeed everyone who has suffered because of watchtowers cruel and flawed policies.
leah remini is a brave and courageous woman to take on these high control groups and expose them for what they truly are.
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After watching A&E Leah Remini on Jehovah Witnesses I am going to stop hiding behind my Avatar
by Still Totally ADD injust got done watching this program and what impress me the most was the bravery of those x-witnesses to sit there on national tv and tell everyone how the wt.
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no hidden faces, no avatar names and no disguise.
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SIMON- I appreciate your input. However, if I get aggressively in the face of my JW daughters , all they will do is appeal to my older brother, an elder, and claim that their dad is " persecuting " them and it will drive away and alienate my daughters even further from me. Then I will eliminate any chance whatsoever of reaching them.
I prefer to just call them on the phone, leave a message telling them I love them, and leave it up to them to reach me on their own terms. If I take the high road in time these daughters of mine might see that they have been the ones shunning me- not the other way around.
If I get aggressive and try to " force " the issue, it just drives cult members and mind controlled people deeper and further into their errant cult ways. The problem with my daughters is that they have no social contact with anybody outside the JW cult. One of my daughter's cleans house for one of my commercial customers, and this client of mine has told my older daughter that she should see me and not shun me. It did nothing to change my daughter's views. My older daughter is totally, big time mind controlled and the only feedback she will accept is from other fellow JW's who have the WT Society's views of things. So it's frustrating. I just try to remain patient. If I lose my cool and call them out on their shit- it will just alienate them further, driving them deeper into the cult. That's my opinion. Thanks for your advice though, something to think about. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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After watching A&E Leah Remini on Jehovah Witnesses I am going to stop hiding behind my Avatar
by Still Totally ADD injust got done watching this program and what impress me the most was the bravery of those x-witnesses to sit there on national tv and tell everyone how the wt.
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Great thread Totally ADD. I deeply appreciate the comments made by everybody, especially you, your son Former2free and your wife Reopened Mind.
In reference to Former2free's comment about some of us " even after leaving some measure of control over us " - I would love to come out and say my real name here on the board, but due to my two adult JW daughters shunning me and one of my daughters holding my 3 year old grandson hostage as a ransom bargaining chip not allowing me to see him, I have to kind of play it undercover somewhat. So I'd like to say the JW cult doesn't control me, but truth is it kind of does due to my daughters still being in. It sucks big time. I appreciate your points. I'm hopeful someday my daughters will gain back their freedom. Fortunately my son is out so we're close like blood brothers. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Worst Fire in California history
by 3rdgen inin terms of destruction.
52,000 people are evacuated.
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Now the morning news had the latest updates : Fire is now about 150,000 acres, it is 55 % contained- however - 71 people have been found dead and over 1,000 people still missing. Over 10,000 residences and commercial buildings were destroyed. The number of dead will continue to rise as cadaver dogs and search teams go systematically through the rubble of thousands of destroyed buildings.
On a more positive note many businesses in our little town about 35 to 40 miles away in the mountains have become proactive in sending trucks with huge amounts of clothing, bottled water, warm socks, blankets, food, etc. for the almost 30,000 or so people who are homeless and destitute right now. Many communities are coming together doing everything all of us can do to assist these fire victims. Please keep these folks in your prayers or thoughts. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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After watching A&E Leah Remini on Jehovah Witnesses I am going to stop hiding behind my Avatar
by Still Totally ADD injust got done watching this program and what impress me the most was the bravery of those x-witnesses to sit there on national tv and tell everyone how the wt.
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I thought the show was done really great. Very sincere, well thought out takes by everyone on the show. I know Cliff, his thoughts were really heartfelt and moving. All the ex-JW's did well. It really helped expose the WT Society and educate people who didn't know much about Jehovah's Witnesses. My longest term friend from high school and his wife watched it and was really shocked by the horror we all had to go through as young JW's being raised up in it. Some of us might not have experienced the suicides , however the shunning almost all of us have experienced- many times. I hope Leah & Mike do another special presentation in the future on the WT Society. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Why Do JW Speakers and GB Members Sound So Robotic?
by minimus ineveryone sounds like they came out of stepford wives.
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is this supposed to be the way witnesses are to speak?
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Because they're cult members. Pretty much it. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Worst Fire in California history
by 3rdgen inin terms of destruction.
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BONEZZ- Really great to hear from you via this thread man. I hope you're hanging in there down near Chico. I'm so sorry a couple of your friends lost their homes and everything. I'm also very sorry to hear your JW daughter still shuns you after all these years. Same with me my friend- my daughters have shunned me for 15 years now , I also have a 3 year old grandson ( my only granchild ) I'm not allowed to see or get to know. I know how much it hurts. My 2 adult JW daughters still shun me , but fortunately like yourself I have a great relationship with my EX-JW son. All we can have is hope buddy that our daughters will change someday. As long as there's life- there's hope. Good hearing from you, stay strong.
COCO- Thanks for the links and the beautiful , albeit sad picture of the couple hugging on what used to be their home. It really brings home how terrible this fire disaster is in Paradise, only 25 to 45 air miles from us. Hang in there buddy and keep your go-bags ready. Mrs. Flipper and I have been clearing any pine needles furiously away from our house, wetting everything down, and haven't even been burning any wood stove fires indoors just to be extra safe. These disasters make us paranoid up here in the woods, but it's better to be cautious and paranoid about reality of fire danger than live in a bubble of delusion thinking it couldn't happen to us- because it can. You found out how close fires can come last year near your property. Take care friend and be safe, wear your mask, protect your lungs. Peace out, hang in there, Mr. Flipper
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Worst Fire in California history
by 3rdgen inin terms of destruction.
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As of today, 42 total fatalities just in the Camp fire in Paradise, California. More and more remains of victims are being discovered. It's the deadliest fire EVER that's been in California history as far as people dying in fires AND the most homes and businesses destroyed. Over 6,000 homes destroyed and 260 or so businesses gone. The town of Paradise is 95 % gone. On a brighter note KCRA Sacramento News fundraiser as of last night has raised $ 1, 250, 650 for the victims with over 3, 500 people with many in our collective towns and cities donating to help these families out to get necessities they need. Last I checked the fire is 30 % contained, may have gone up this morning. These poor victims lives are changed forever, and the PTSD they'll go through escaping with their lives intact, will haunt them for the rest of their lives. If you are religious- say a prayer for these victims, if you aren't religious please send positive thoughts and love on behalf of these victims. Peace out, Mr.Flipper
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Reminder:Leah Remini Expose on J.W.'s airs Tuesday Nov.13 on A&E channel.
by StoneWall inthought i'd post this since the date is almost upon us for those who want to see it as it premieres.hope it turns out really good and that she can help many to see the watchtower for what it really is like she did about the scientologists.here's a link to a small preview of it:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/leah-remini-scientology-aftermath-jehovah-s-witnesses-special-event-trailer-1153594
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My wife and I are definitely looking forward to watching it ! Go Leah & Mike ! And the Ex-JW's who are also on the program. Do a good job of exposing the WT Society and informing people. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Worst Fire in California history
by 3rdgen inin terms of destruction.
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TOTALLY ADD- You are so correct my friend. Fire can happen anywhere so fast. This town of Paradise burned up so fast in just about 12 to 16 hours on Thursday. People trying to escape with their lives. There was one experience of a man trying to escape who had to get out of his truck as it was catching fire and a lady he never had met was picking up strangers in her truck, she had 8 in the back of her truck and yelled to him to " get in !"
And this lady drove him and 8 others down into the valley to Chico to safety some 25 miles away. Incredible acts of caring & bravery with people helping each other.
Some were not so lucky though. My son sent me this video from someone he knew who posted an online video of the devastation , death, and destruction that happened at the end of a road where- believe it or not- 6 years ago my son and his wife used to live. They moved from this area 5 years ago , so they are very sad at the plight of their former neighbors. This video is graphic in showing burnt out cars, some deceased who didn't make it , so if it bothers you to watch, don't watch. However this man in the video's nephew posted this to portray the reality of the death and destruction that happened. Very sobering and makes people think of staying fire safe :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_AqyPaUTg&feature=youtu.be.