Hello Nikki, I commented on your other thread about helping our relatives. Just wanted to invite you to the 12th annual South Lake Tahoe apostafest we have each year of ex-JW's who support one another. I realize you are in South Carolina and probably can't get away July 12th to 14th, but we have about 40 to 50 people who show up every year with experiences of JW family shunning them as well. So it's a laid back , cool atmosphere. The details are on my thread on the front page of active topics right now about the 12th annual Tahoe gathering . Feel free to check it out ! Hope you can come out to California Tahoe sometime ! Take care, hang in there, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Anyone in the Greenville/Spartanburg SC area?
by Nikki collins inlooking for ones in my area.
been mentally out for years and finally im free and looking for friends because as most of you know the only family and friends i had were witnesses and now wont talk to me.
also lost out on relationships with my ""worldly"" family because you know.... that was bad.
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Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower
by JeffT ini did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.
i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.
so much for their ability to see into the future.
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JEFF T- Thanks for posting. I'll be 60 years old soon before the year is over, and I was born and raised in the JW cult. I was also told ( like many of you here ) that I'd never get married or have children in " this old system of things " .
But in the immortal words of Jim Nabors from the old 1960's Gomer Pyle show, " Surprise, surprise ! " I'm on my 3rd marriage, and my adult children are in their 30's ! lol.
The sick, sick irresponsibility that the WT Society has shown by deceiving millions of JW's into thinking they'll live forever is criminal and disgusting in my opinion. My older parents died thinking thinking they'll be back. But nobody, including a corrupt organization and it's leaders claiming to be the only channel to " God " - has a right to dupe people like that. It's cruel, dishonest, not to mention insane.
In my research of ancestors online, the same thing they all have in common for hundreds of years ? They all have a date of death , Nobody here gets out alive ( Jim Morrison stated ) and he was right !
So if you are a lurking JW reading this - PLEASE - wake up and smell the coffee. Smell, taste, think, and start believing in reality, and move on in your life to freedom of mind and go live your life successfully. You are being hindered from doing so, because you only have access to one world view- JWism. And the leaders of the WT Society are yanking your chain being dishonest. Please free yourself and come back to the real life and reality. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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CO at assembly in Ohio repeatedly says great tribulation is "only minutes away"
by LevelThePlayingField insnippets of two talks by co at ca and during his visit to a congregation in ohio.
fear mongering at it's best.
has anyone else heard their co say the same nonsense?.
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Thanks for posting. I heard this same crap 45 years ago in 1974 right before the non eventful year of 1975 came and passed with no Armageddon. I was a teenager then and was told I wouldn't get married or have children in " this system of things " . Now I'm almost 60 with adult children and grandchildren.
Time goes on, nothing changes. Just the players. And these JW players are just being indoctrinated through fear and WT leaders play on those fears and phobia's - keeping rank & file JW's scared to death, quite literally. It's a cruel, evil way to control people.
But for 140 years now since 1879 WT Society and it's leaders have fostered fear, terror, manipulation, and control of millions of JW's to keep power, control, and financial purse strings of JW's tightly under their supervision. It's disgusting. Any JW's reading this, wake up and smell the coffee man. Go and live your life, don't waste it anymore.
I've lived my life with freedom of mind since I was 43 or 44 now, and listen, the big bad dream is not true. You don't turn into bird food when you leave the Jehovah's Witness organization. Life gets better. Don't believe the lie you're being told as they tell you that - to keep control over you. Here's to freedom of mind. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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A Confrontation with Elders!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhere is a post i found.
boy the wife has balls of steel !
you decide.. {they stopped by yesterday to invite my wife to the memorial.. my wife is fully awake thanks to one of my daughters!
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OK, my bad. Well, the guys wife had a lot of courage. Whoever she was. If any of us had that courageous of a wife, a man would be proud.Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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A Confrontation with Elders!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhere is a post i found.
boy the wife has balls of steel !
you decide.. {they stopped by yesterday to invite my wife to the memorial.. my wife is fully awake thanks to one of my daughters!
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Your wife is very courageous. Kudos to your wife for speaking out against the ridiculous teachings of the Bible in regards to it's cold, egotistical " God " . If more of us ex-JW's spoke out personally towards the crazy JW or Bible beliefs- perhaps more of us would be left alone and not be bothered by JW's coming to our doors.
Any time we expose either the Bible or the JW belief system as faulty, it's amazing how quickly we get put on their " do not call " list. lol. JW's haven't knocked on my door now since 2012. Which being perfectly honest, is a relief and a blessing all by itself ! Nice job by your wife Zing ! Give her our best ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The Mueller Report....will it affect Trump negatively?
by minimus inthey say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
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Minimus- That's your opinion. And I disagree with you. You obviously haven't read the Mueller report. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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So Many People Are Overly Emotional and Acting Crazy Spoiled!
by minimus inyouths in school have meltdowns anytime someone “offends” them.
grownups at a dinner table flip out on each other over politics.
drivers are ready to smash each other up if someone disrespects them on the road.
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No, just being honest with my observations about people in the public these last two years. People are much more stressed out when they feel abuse of power over them. Just calling a spade a spade. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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So Many People Are Overly Emotional and Acting Crazy Spoiled!
by minimus inyouths in school have meltdowns anytime someone “offends” them.
grownups at a dinner table flip out on each other over politics.
drivers are ready to smash each other up if someone disrespects them on the road.
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" Youths in school have meltdowns anytime someone " offends " them. Grownups at a dinner table flip out on each other over politics. Drivers are ready to smash each other up if someone disrespects them on the road.
Intelligent dialogue and well mannered conversations are disappearing. It's too bad.
Yes, it IS too bad. Very sad. But this is what we as a nation get when the leader of America engages in disrespectful, ill mannered dialogues, diatribes, and " conversations " in the abusive manner that he does. Trump not only ENABLES the typical American citizen to behave this way towards others , he FOSTERS and PROMOTES verbal abuse, disrespect, and anger.
And most citizens feel empowered to display the same attitudes that their leaders do . Their view is " oh well, if the president can be an asshole, I guess it gives me permission to be one also. " I guarantee you Minimus, that many people are influenced that way, at least with the climate of aggression and hate within America now.
Until we have a leader who will show respect to our American allies across the world and respect to most American citizens- we will continue to see this pissed off attitude in people. Some people are like freaking robots on this planet. If they see someone in power abusing that power, they feel it gives them a license to do it as well. My 2 cents on your thread. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The Mueller Report....will it affect Trump negatively?
by minimus inthey say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
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Flipper, is Trump guilty of election abuses involving the Russians ?
Answer : The House of Representatives will determine that once they investigate the ENTIRE Mueller report. It's the Congress and House that determines if Trump's election abuses involved the Russians. Not William Barr's call or responsibility to determine that.
Was he ( Trump ) in collusion with them ( Russians ) ?
Answer : Once again, it's the House of Representatives call and Congress that will determine if Trump was in collusion with Russia. Not William Barr's call to make.
Was Trump unfairly spied on ? No, he was not unfairly spied upon. The FBI had every legal right and followed strict protocol before raiding Cohen's office and all the other Trump lackey's who were involved in the investigation into whether Russia interfered with our American election. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The Mueller Report....will it affect Trump negatively?
by minimus inthey say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
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This is not over. Not by a long shot. I downloaded the entire redacted report on my computer. William Barr is just a lackey for Trump, not a truly objective United States attorney general. In Trump's orbit , many of his lackey's are trying to hide and bury his obstruction of justice methods, including his attorneys.
But if you read the report Don McGann REFUSED to do what Trump WANTED him to do. He REFUSED to fire Robert Mueller. So evidence in the Mueller report reveals that many times Trump attempted to squash this investigation. Don't take my word for it. Download and read the report for yourselves.
The REAL report will include REAL information that you will NOT see on fake news channels like Fox news- who again, are protecting this president from being exposed as a criminal. The same president that attorney general Barr is trying to protect by NOT revealing the sordid details to media outlets.
But no matter. The house of representatives WILL keep pursuing it now that the REAL Mueller report has been delivered. Those of you who desire to bury your heads in the sand regarding this president's obstruction of justice actions disclosed in the Mueller report- are just fooling yourselves. It's a case of escaping controlling leaders from one cult ( WT Society & Jehovah's Witnesses ) and being duped once again by the leader of another totalitarian cult ( cult of Trump ) .
Throw any slings and arrows verbally that you want. Until the entire house of representatives investigation is over and the REAL Mueller report is brought down with force onto this administration, many 35 % of Trump supporters will continue to be victims of the Stockolm syndrome burying the facts of the Mueller report with their heads in the sand like ostriches. My 2 cents. Peace out, Mr. Flipper