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  Simple Question:Why Won’t JWs Just Report Child Abuse As The Law Requires?

  by minimus in

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  i just don’t get it.

  it would make their life so much easier!.

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  flipper

  Simple answer : Because the governing body & WT Society leaders do not recognize the laws of the land as having authority over them. They only allow themselves to follow the Bible's 2 witness rule, even though this endangers children. And within that simple answer is that the financial empire the WT Society wishes to protect to keep them financially solvent. Money first, children's welfare way down low on the list of priorities.

  In regards to the WT Society's leaders life being made easier by cooperating with authorities in reporting child abuse ? Uh, not really. It would expose them more fully in the wide open light as a criminal organization hiding all of these sexual predators of children and bring MORE attention in the media to WT Society cover ups - just like the media exposed Warren Jeffs and the Mormon's and also how the media exposed the Catholic church even more. Catholic church is still being exposed with all the pedophile priests molesting minor children.

  I think WT leaders are intentionally trying to stay on the down low- and they think this will make their life easier . If all the child abuse was fully exposed- we'd see an absolute shit storm of media coverage . I wish that would happen, but WT keeps trying to sidestep and hide in the shadows. We need more Leah Remini's out there exposing these crimes of the WT Society. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Here You Go, Folks! - Leah Remini

  by sparky1 in

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  national television exposure.............. www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-teaser-.

  https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/17/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-season-3-premiere-.

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  Really looking forward to Leah Remini & Mike Rinder coming back with their activism in exposing these cults JW's & Scientology. Very well done program and I'm sure the Jehovah's Witnesses 2 hour program will be done the same with detail, professionalism, and great interviews with Lloyd, Cliff, or whomever else is on there. The main thing is - Jehovah's Witnesses and the WT Society are being exposed for criminal behavior and abuses to their members. Whomever the EX-JW is exposing it doesn't matter ( unless it's Rick Fearon, you don't want him on there - god forbid ) - but most of the other EX-JW's on there would do a great job of exposing this evil cult. Should be a great show ! Go Leah & Mike ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  It's a shame isn't it?

  by freddo in

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  ... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

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  flipper

  Simon says-

  " See how I posted an explanation showing the weakness of your claim " ? That's what winning an argument by using reason looks like. "

  Not necessarily. If the explanation is unreasonable it doesn't prove anything. And you haven't won anything if the core of your argument makes no sense. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  It's a shame isn't it?

  by freddo in

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  ... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

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  flipper

  Quote from Simon - " If their claims were true, they would only require a link " .

  That's a false statement. I've supplied many links, you tubes that were reasonable and you've shot them down as " uneducated, misinformed, or stupid " .

  So you are accusing others here of using smear tactics - aren't you doing the same thing?

  When I post a link that proves my point you are saying it's " out of context " . When YOU post a link it's always " totally believable " . Isn't that the reality of what we are dealing with here? You're willing to cast stones at people that disagree with your comments, because in the end - you always consider your own views correct and not in error . You cannot admit fault. Am I correct ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  It's a shame isn't it?

  by freddo in

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  ... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

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  flipper

  SIMON- Well, I guess you proved my point when I stated " Stay tuned after my post to see how this comment is responded to . " Considering the fact that you seem to think all Democrats are dumb fucks and not worth arguing with, you've proved the point of Freddo's thread in your last post. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  It's a shame isn't it?

  by freddo in

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  ... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

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  FREDDO- I do agree with the sentiments of your opening post. And I admit I have become pretty heated in political debates on this forum, more than I'd like to. And if I've offended some here, I apologize. I stand up for what I believe in , and I don't care who the fuck argues with me. But when my views get misrepresented , and I realize I'm arguing with ignorant , skewed, narrow, and sometimes quite hateful, insulting viewpoints from individuals - at that point I look at this forum like a television with different channels. I just switch the channel onto more positive threads that won't depress me - such as newbie threads where we can lend support to newly exiting EX-JW's , also threads about exposing the WT Society 's illegal behavior, threads where people need help. Like yourself, I've had about enough of everybody thinking they are an armchair quarterback or some " elitist expert " regarding political viewpoints.

  The ones that squawk the loudest and most vitriolic in their comments in my opinion- are the most ignorant. If you know you're right- a person doesn't have to go all 51/50 and ape shit at people just to prove a point. Hey debate is great, but in this era of " Donald Trump manners " or lack thereof- it's emboldened and enabled all the drones to shed decency in having manners and communicating in a civil way. Stay tuned after my post to see how this comment is responded to.

  That being said- I will usually participate in more sedated threads where hopefully I like many other great folks on this board can assist exiting JW's in a positive way. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Leah Rimini on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by sparky1 in

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  i just saw an ad last night for this.

  it will be televised in november on a&e..

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  Great news ! Looking forward to Leah & Mike's show again and congratulations are in order for any EX-JW going on that show and exposing the JW cult as being the criminal organization that it is. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

  montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

  a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

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  flipper

  In my opinion it's absolutely idiotic of WT leaders after all of these millions of $$$$$ in child abuse lawsuits - for them to still not make mandatory reporting to the police by the elders themselves a mandatory policy in their organization.

  They claim they " abhor child abuse " however what they show is that WT leaders have no conscience whatsoever and that they " abhor " honestly protecting children. When are WT leaders going to get a clue that if they immediately required their elders to report any accusation of child abuse to police authorities right when they find out about it- it not only might save them millions $$$ in lawsuits, but also would gain back a tiny bit of respect from the media and perhaps their own followers ?

  But WT leaders stubbornly bludgeon ahead in their pride and arrogance not complying with reporting laws because they don't want to answer to " Satan's world leaders " or " worldly authorities " . WT Society's pride & arrogance will lead to their eventual downfall. And they will experience bad Karma come crashing down upon their heads. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

  montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

  a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

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  flipper

  It's good that WT Society's policies on child abuse are being exposed and that they are being hurt financially by these child abuse lawsuits. Will WT leaders ever learn ? Probably not. They'll stay stubborn until the government has to force them to close up shop. WT Society leaders are not good at admitting fault. Invariably they almost never admit fault or responsibility for how their congregations are run. WT leaders try to separate themselves from what happens inside congregations. I hope more of these child abuse lawsuits come out exposing the WT Society as the criminal organization that they are. It's what WT leaders deserve for being stubborn and unwilling to yield to the laws of the land. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

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  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  flipper

  What exactly, do you hope to accomplish by yelling at JW's ? Releasing stress perhaps. I can think of more positive outlets for releasing stress. But hey, it's your life. Peace out, Mr. Flipper