this is too important to bury within an old thread.
that thread hashed over several items of interest which you may want to read by way of a refresher: .
is gail bethea-jackson truly a doctor as the watchtower site claims?
A couple of posters have saved it as a WMV file and posted it here... not sure of the links though.
It is easy enough to do now - you can use WMV recorder...or you can download the new free realplayer - it has a record function.
If I find the link to the WMV, I'll let you know.
this is too important to bury within an old thread.
that thread hashed over several items of interest which you may want to read by way of a refresher: .
is gail bethea-jackson truly a doctor as the watchtower site claims?
Tatiana, do you have a link to that site please ?
here it is : feb 15 2008 study edition.
http://files-upload.com/files/671272/2008-02-15%20watchtower%20study%20edition%20ocr.pdf.
with many thanks again to fokyc for the scans.
I think you are all going overboard about the WT for the b/s only I wish you would see the good, seems everyone on here looks for faults constantly.
It doesn't matter who I am, but I am not a representative of the WT, I know you think that and its very frustrating for me because I honestly don't want to represent anyone but God. Alpha I think I am staying faithful to Jehovah not the WT.
As I said, I DO know you from other forums... but I've learnt the hard way about cross-posting from different forums, so I won't do it this time (remember the chaos last time?).
...and YES, I know that you are distancing yourself from the organisation in order to stay faithful to God.
...and YES, I know that you do not represent the Watchtower, but you are one of many who has a toe in and a toe out of the organisation. You may have the best of both worlds, but that is not what is on offer at the doorstep.
What IS on offer is total commitment to the organisation - otherwise people are seen as "spiritually weak" etc.
Okay, I guess this is what it boils down to :
Does God/Jehovah/Yahweh/Creator actually want us to be loyal to HIM or to an ORGANISATION claiming to represent him. You can't do both... (You can't have two masters according to Jesus).
You know all those little things that don't make sense about the Watchtower ?
Well, they all start to fall into place when you stop thinking of the Watchtower as a religion and start thinking of it as a business. Businesses seek to grow and protect themselves.
The preaching message of this business is incidental - it has just become an advertising slogan - it is no longer the driving force from the top. It may well be with the Publishers on the ground, but the directive from the top is "survive".
Which makes me think of something... what do you call someone who works for a Publishing Company ? A publisher.
When did Jesus ever say that ? Don't you see how they have slipped things like this in and it all becomes somehow "normal" ?
here it is : feb 15 2008 study edition.
http://files-upload.com/files/671272/2008-02-15%20watchtower%20study%20edition%20ocr.pdf.
with many thanks again to fokyc for the scans.
Got it.
Fresia... I have just worked out who you are on other forums.
Surely with what you know about the appauling behaviour of the GB, you can see that this religion does not have God's backing anymore (if it did at all).
I am surprised that you defend them so much.
As I said in my above post - many of the indivduals are great - then they start to become representitives of the Watchtower rather than God... (yes, I'm sure you've see it happen - judicials, police state tactics, enforcement of the "letter of the law" over the "spirit of the law" etc).
Surely taking attention away from God in that manner makes them the modern day Golden Calf ?
...and the offer of a PM or an e-mail is still there.
hey everyone!.
i'm dying to get my hands on the feb 08 watchtower.
i keep seeing alot of posts talking about it, but i dont see any posts where someone actually put up a link to a pdf copy or anything.
this is too important to bury within an old thread.
that thread hashed over several items of interest which you may want to read by way of a refresher: .
is gail bethea-jackson truly a doctor as the watchtower site claims?
BTW folks, did you know you can download an entire website by using a free program found here, http://www.httrack.com/ ?
I wonder how much HDD space it would take to do this site ?
Acutally, on a similar note, the new RealPlayer will allow you to save the video from JW-Media for free.
this is too important to bury within an old thread.
that thread hashed over several items of interest which you may want to read by way of a refresher: .
is gail bethea-jackson truly a doctor as the watchtower site claims?
That is kinda what I thought, it is a context you are adding . Take that unverified assumption away and you do not have much. There is no real reason to assume it is a defense for anything. That is adding context.
Point taken, and it may well be their "get out", but it is filed on their site under "child abuse", then further filed under "progressive understanding", then is shown under this title :
Granted, it doesn't add anything to her words, but it certainly doesn't reflect the real topic that was being discussed which was "teenagers abusing children".
It's all down to the editing.
Recently in the UK, the BBC were in trouble over a video preview of a documentary about the Queen. They did a similar thing, they spliced the footage together in the wrong order - making her appear to do something that she did not do.
I believe that people were forced to resign over it and were fined.
But then that is a whole different thing : going up in court against the Queen !!!
it's usually announced by the time of the january km at the latest.
anyone know why it hasn't been released this year?
"Behind Closed Doors"
there is a programme on tomorrow.. not sure what it is about..
There's an online preview here: http://www.channel4.com/video/the-end-of-the-world-cult/series-1/episode-1/the-emperors-new-clothes_p_1.html
it's usually announced by the time of the january km at the latest.
anyone know why it hasn't been released this year?
"Preaching to the choir - yes, you can count your time !"
"Follow Blindly into a pit"
