since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.
i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.
but that all ended recently.
In hindsight one could ask her what scripture exactly states it`s an overlapping generation , I can`t find it in my NWT of the Bible., and when she goes on to quote the G.G. member , you could say , So it`s not a specific scripture that states it , it is only an interpretation of said scripture by the G.B.
smiddy
when was the last time anyone recalls hearing the word 'remnant', in meetings or conversation?
is it something still discussed?
[i haven't attended in 20 years, so no idea].
The way the figures keep increasing year by year the Remnant will someday become the Majority .
smiddy
oh no just realized i might get d'f for joing another church:/
No might about it Sloppy your toast .
smiddy
in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
It may be news to some , who point out that John Lennon was not perfect , neither was Jesus Christ perfect.
Think about it , Mary was an imperfect human being and the seed from God was perfect shall we say .
It takes two to make a baby 50% imperfection + 50% perfection =imperfection .
If I went into a pub and the bartender told me he would give me the perfect beer , and then he poured 50% of beer into a pint and then poured 50% of contaminated water to fill that pint I would throw it over him .
John Lennon was an imperfect human being , like the rest of us , who was responsible for some of the great songs of today
." Imagine" is the song that the U.N. should make a reality of on Earth , adopting it in there charter , then again maybe I`m dreaming.
smiddy
i wasn't going to post until after my hearing.
but i have changed my mind due to a pm.
yesterday was a terrible day.
Umbertoecho ,
I can only imagine what you are going through , ideally this would have been all over very quickly , however the law does not work that way , and sadly it can drag on for years before justice is done and sometimes even then it isn`t done.
So take comfort that so many people are supporting you , praying for you ,and sending you good vibes ,I`m in the latter cattergory .
You are and should be an inspiration to any /all other victims who have remained silent so far to come forward and add your voice with Umbertoecho ,to stop this abuse in the Jehovah`s Witness religion by publicizing it in the Royal Commission where real effective means can be employed to address the situation , and if the G.B. of J.W.`s reject those recommendations , then expose them for why they are doing so.
smiddy
this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.
when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.
this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.
On the bright side your daughter learned a valuable lesson she will never forget , there is no way she is ever going to go back .So you don`t have to worry about that.
Thankfully she was never baptized which may have been a bit more stressful.
It brings up another question though , J.W,`s shun unbaptized people who no longer attend meetings?
I wish you and your daughter all the best , free from the restraints of a cult religion and to live your life the way you want to , and not be manipulated by other people who try to make you live the way they want you to live.
When a person at the door to door work rejects the message of a J.W, in the Field service are they then shunned ?
Isn`t that inconsistent ? / hypocritical even ?
smiddy
through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
Konceptual99
Jehovah , couldn`t have said it better himself ., and I believe Jesus would second it.
smiddy
https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.
the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.
child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.
I`m looking forward to it
smiddy
we are having weekly terror attacks.
you cant just keep carpet bombing as little ground has been won against issi's in one year.
they are making millions from oil and farming.
talesin ,
Sorry , but you left out one important fail ,
The war on gun control in the USA , the N.R.A. , an absolute failure .
The koran /Quaran , is based on a literal interpretation of a Centuries old text of sacred writings held dear by it`s adherents.That has no place in today`s society .
The N.R.A. and there supporters also base there interpretation on texts/writings of a day gone by that has no place in today `s society .
I don`t profess to have the answer to either problem , however , I do know that both have to change for the better sooner or later. , preferably sooner .
smiddy
no, not because of the message of deluding yourself into seeing the hand of god working in mundane wt activities.
that is to be expected from this org.
what really bothered me was the quote in paragraph one.
How about Jehovah`s Witnesses open their Bible to Ecl,9:11 and read , "time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all " Just because this statement is a truism accredited to the Bible does not mean it was put their by any God , humans , penned the words in the Bible. No God wrote the Bible.
A simple statement of fact ,There is no intervention by any God at all in our lives ,time and unforeseen occurrences happens to all of us., good people and bad people..
How many times have we heard the expression that someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time .
How many times have we heard the expression that someone was in the right place at the right time .
Validating the expression , Time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all , a human observation of past events , nothing more.
smiddy
