whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
I can`t be specific about numbers , but my memory tells me in the 1960`s , 70`s a ball park figure of D.F persons was on average each year was 60,000 Jehovah`s Witnesses , admittedly many/some of them got re-instated , possibly a third ? they never did, as far as I can recall give a number for those who stopped attending meetings to never return.
smiddy
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
If you lived in O.T. Bible times you would have been stoned to death , think about that.
To have an affair to get out of a marriage you went into with your eyes open , and then want to be re-instated to a religion you don`t believe in , just to have social normalcy with family and friends , and then plan to fade ,so you can keep those relationships alive , while at the same time marrying the person who was complicit in your plan to commit adultery , I`m aghast , you are one conniving , manipulative woman who is self indulgent .
As much as I hate the WTB&TS , I hope they throw the book at you for what you have done to your ex and what you plan to do .
If you want to know what I really think PM me.
I realize you are new here ,you may be young ,you may be naive ,regardless of what I have said stick around ,
you are bound to learn much from other people on this board
smiddy
so at last i am in my next step of my fade, this month is the first month i did not turned in any hours.
i received a text from our group leader an ms & i told him i didn't have any to report, then of course it got bumped up to the elder & i text him back i have no hours to report for december.
i came to this decision when reading many posters here about the yearbook stats, i do not want & refused to contribute to this organization "boosting" numbers for their glorious purposes, after the rc in australia they do not deserve for me to give them a "production" report of what i do for god, no more.
Khaleesi
Remember this important fact :
"The only power they have over you is the power you give them"
They have NO power OR authority over you unless YOU give it to them
Do not fall into that trap.
It is as you said your worship to God is between you and him alone nobody else , when they try to badger you say , It`s between me and my God and nobody else , thank you for your concern , and say nothing else to them , do not engage in conversation as they will try to trap you in your words.
Take care , I wish you all the best
smiddy
pdf.
why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!
" and follow through with the proper authorities?
When G.Jackson was brought before the A.R.C. he said words to the effect ," if all states in Australia had mandatory reporting laws , we would not have this problem of 1006 cases of child abuse not being reported to the authorities by Elders of Jehovah`s Witnesses " Which by the way means 3,018 Elders that did not report it , that is to say 3 on a judicial committee times 1006 =3018 .
So G.Jackson was effectively blaming the Australian Government for their not reporting Child sexual abuse in there midst.
So he was in effect trying to pass the buck onto the Australian Government.
The mind boggles
smiddy
having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.
this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.
the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.
Flipper ,
You stole my thunder , I was about to post how I am so appreciative of all the people on this board who post , many of which are great thinkers whose knowledge and intellect is something I admire .
I only have a basic education , and I stand in awe of some of the in-depth discussions about all manner of topics that are discussed here .Some of which are way over my head .LOL
My education has been enhanced by the great thinkers on this board , and at times I can still be a dickhead , because I`m forever learning .
smiddy
i have been thinking, it is a lonely place in the real world knowing ttatt but if we have a phrase we can unite, support and help each other.
the question we will ask is:.
what's your favorite bible verse?
It`s best not to know the identity of your "true" brothers & sisters lest you get caught and are interrogated/ tortured in a judicial meeting and rat on your Bros. & sisters .LOL
smiddy
question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).
there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.
i have done the math and it works.
The Watctower writers / G.B. members / Presidents , were infatuated with numbers as were the Bible writers .
Times and dates , figure predominately in W.T. writings ever since C.T.Russell used measurements of the Pyramid in his predictions.
As pointed out by V.I, the numbers 7, 10 , 12 , 144,000 , all pointed to completeness of one sort or another , then Google how many times the number 40 is mentioned in the Bible .
Numbers / numerology , certainly did play a big part in Watchtower theology .
smiddy
i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .
rip d,b, .
smiddy .
That was very moving fiddler , you and your daughter watching Labyrinth together , bonding together .
smiddy
we've been bombarded by spam a number of times in the last few weeks and last night was the worst yet.
i already built some tools to make removing it easier because i think the longer it stays up, the more it encourages it, but still it's annoying to see and interferes with the operation of the site.
fortunately, we were able to catch and remove it relatively quickly.. i've now implemented and deployed some additional protection measures which i hope will better detect and block it from appearing in the first place.
Its the first time I have ever noticed a spam problem Simon that I can remember , and I have been here about 9 years , so you must be doing something right .
I must admit it did give me a scare , was it my pc infected ? or were you the target .
Thank you and your team , for a great site.
smiddy
me and my wife are still "in".
we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.
while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.
The Jehovah`s Witness religion , just like so many other Fundamentalist religions will just fade into the background , no they won`t disappear off the planet , however they will become very insignificant as a minor religion, and be just one of the many.
Some examples : The Assembly Of God , Christian Scientists , Christadelphians , Exclusive Brethren , etc.
smiddy
