i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
An actual reference to the AWAKE article would be appreciated ,
They were never registered as a religion in Cuba ? Can you verify that information ?
I know that initially they never registered as a religion in Mexico , because only the Catholic Church could own their Churches , not any other religion.
So the J.W.`s operated in Mexico as a Cultural organization , for many decades and not a religion.
smiddy
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
They are excellent contributions :
Mrs R-Awaken
Muddy Waters
Coded logic.
C`mon guys any more ?
smiddy
so imagine the gb have a sudden attack of honesty and realize "crap, this whole thing is lies - we're not god's spokespeople at all !".
how do you dismantle a religion that has +8 million members in a responsible way?
you can't just publish a watchtower saying "we were wrong" because that would be irresponsible - you need to let people down gently, put people off gradually.
As much as I would like #1 to happen , I can`t see it taking place., Look at the ridiculous beliefs / changes that have taken place since C.T.Russell through J.F.Rutherford , Knorr , and Fred Franz ,over the years , and their is still over 8 million active J.W.`s still peddling this crazy religion world wide .
It would take more than an Atom . Hydrogen , Neutron , Bomb all combined to wake these people up .
And the Governing Body know that , and there is no way they are going to give up the adoration and power they hold over these people .
The G.B. are close to being worshipped by the rank and file members , as if they are sitting at the right hand of God , they are not going to give that up ? Not for anything.
So the bottom line is , The G.B. is not going to dismantle the WTB&TS , not while there is still breath in their body.
smiddy
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
For a while there I was confused as to what CLAM stood for .
Ideas that crossed my mind
Christ Left A Ministry , or Meeting
Children`s Lives Are Mine .....( Pedo`s in the Borg )
Christ, Look At Me .....( A wannabe Anointed person )
Cultists Love Any-ones Money
smiddy
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I think" Barbie Girl" could/should become our National Anthem when we become a Republic /
Having a barbecue on Australia day with beer , lamb , snags, champers is a National tradition .
smiddy
“happy is the one who keeps in expectation* and who arrives at the 1,335 days!.
we all know the climax of the book of daniel, the fulfillment of all god's prophetic promises to mankind found their fulfillment at the 1922 cedar point convention, nothing more ecstatic will ever befall mankind as this wonderful convention.. those of us born after 1922 are so jealous that we missed the only "happy" event that would befall gods people in the end times.
can you guys tell us about it before you await the resurrection as there is nothing "happy" promised for us to look forward too.. or has "new light" been shed on my favourite jw claim of scriptural fulfillment being realised in themselves?
The fact that the " Revelation Book" used the 1922 Cedar Point Convention and the 7 ? consecutive Conventions in the following years , and tying it to the book of revelation as prophecy being fullfilled was the beginning of the end for me, though it still took many years to actually exit .
smiddy
i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
One thing that really pissed me off was young children addressing adults as Bro,or Sis, Bob or jean using first names of adults , I always thought that was disrespectful and a familiararity children shouldn`t have .
smiddy
i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
All religions , other than JW`s are "Babylon The Great" False Religion .
Makes you wonder why GB member Geoffrey Jackson said when questioned by Angus Stewart at the ARC , Do you believe Jehovah`s Witnesses are the only Religion God is using today ? or words to that effect .
And his answer was : "That would be presumptuous of me to say that" I believe that was his exact quote.
" Not everybody in the KH is an approved associate ".
" That person is weak in the truth " as against "That person is strong in the truth" a disapproved and an approved associate in the congregation.
" That person is marked " a questionable person to hang out with .
smiddy
im new here, so go easy with me!
just wanted to know if any one has any idea's or personal experience in regard to drug and alcohol abuse in former jw's.
all the one's i know have just lost the plot when it comes drugs and alcohol, especially drug use.
Hi , Tigger , I see you joined here 16 years ago and have posted 2 times and commented 26 times , you must be the quite silent type , good to see you back again .So I guess you are new here .in a sense ,
And believe me I knew personally a number of active JW`s who had an alcohol problem , who managed to hide it successfully .
Please join in the discussions more often , it`s a great place to be .
Take care
smiddy
god forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.
so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.
a 5-10 minutes eulogy.
Late Bloomer , I went to a " worldly" funeral of a work mate who was killed in an accident at his home .
It was held in a Uniting Church , that is a merger of some protestant churches here in Australia .
And it was a Celebration of his life , and guess what : One of the songs was about giving praise to Jehovah God .
It`s a blatant lie that Christendoms Churches do not use that name for God..
Since leaving the JW`s I have attended quite a few "worldly" funerals and they all Celebrate the life of the deceased .
smiddy
