Posts by smiddy

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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

by goddidit in

a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

thanks.

smiddy

All of you people quoting examples of "Christians" before C.T.Russell and the "Jehovah`s Witnesses "movement.are missing the point , JW`s don`t recognize anybody , or organized Religion before C.T.Russell as being Christian after 100 A.D.

True Christians according to JW theology was from Jesus baptism , till approximately 100 A.D.

Then their was the Apostacy from Approx. 100 A.D. till the late 1800`s when C.T.Russell appeared on the scene.when true Christians appeared on the scene as the I.B.S.A. , later to be re-named Jehovah`s Witnesses

smiddy

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guest of honour

by zeb in

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my wife was invited by her past employer to a dinner as guest of honour.

guess..?

the dinner coincided with a meeting..

smiddy

Zeb

Don`t keep us in suspense , what happened ? Fill us in with the details .

smiddy

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Has anybody watched Making A Murderer on Netflix ?

by smiddy in

i watched this 10 part series the other day and i was appalled at the investigation conducted by the police , especially the way they conducted their investigation with brendan vassey , his interrogation and obvious manipulation by the police officers , i couldn`t believe he was convicted , and sentenced to a jail term.. to any intelligent person with any sense of compassion could see brendan vassey was intellectually disadvantaged , yet these police officers exploited that failing of this boy .he should never have been convicted , his case should have been thrown out of court , the fact that he has been in jail over 10 years is a gross miscarriage of justice .. the conviction of steven avery seemed to me to be a set up also from what was presented on netflix ,.

i am no fan of steven avery ,i think he is a bit of a hillbilly type , that has had no problem with cruelty to animals , which i abhor ,yet i do think he has been railroaded in this conviction ,while the real killer and rapist goes free .. what are your thoughts .

smiddy.

smiddy

I watched this 10 part series the other day and I was appalled at the investigation conducted by the police , especially the way they conducted their investigation with Brendan Vassey , his interrogation and obvious manipulation by the police officers , I couldn`t believe he was convicted , and sentenced to a jail term.

To any intelligent person with any sense of compassion could see Brendan Vassey was intellectually disadvantaged , yet these police officers exploited that failing of this boy .He should never have been convicted , his case should have been thrown out of court , the fact that he has been in jail over 10 years is a gross miscarriage of justice .

The conviction of Steven Avery seemed to me to be a set up also from what was presented on Netflix ,

I am no fan of Steven Avery ,I think he is a bit of a hillbilly type , that has had no problem with cruelty to animals , which I abhor ,yet I do think he has been railroaded in this conviction ,while the real killer and rapist goes free .

What are your thoughts

smiddy

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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

by goddidit in

a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

thanks.

smiddy

Ian Reilly was charged and convicted of murdering his pregnant wife in Queensland in the late 1980`s ? they were both special pioneers and served where the need was great in Australia

After his release from jail he was still an active JW and married a fellow witness .

smiddy

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You Are All Pieces of Garbage

by berrygerry in

although tomo's human hotdogs was as low as an alleged human could verbally go, tomo's fear-mongering was not an official video.. i'm wagering that the feb 2016 video will be pulled or adjusted.. what do you think, trash?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68pcx7ztac.

smiddy

What has ToMo got against garlic bread .? it doesn`t soil the bread it enhances it in my opinion .

Keep videos like these coming JW.ORG , their sure to wake more people up to this cult , it`s probably one of the best things they have done to help people exit the JW`s

Instead of being mysterious G.B. members , that held a mystique about them , they are now in full view as to what buffoons they really are .

They expose themselves as the Emperor with no clothes .

smiddy

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

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i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

smiddy

Threaten to sue those that took the pictures and the elders for stalking , if they take any action over this and make sure you name names in the lawsuit , I guarantee they wont take any action . ( you don`t have to actually do it but make the threat that you will convincingly )

smiddy

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When you Go to Bethel, You Sign Over Your Dead Body.

by new boy in

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this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".

yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.

besides we were never going to die anyway.

smiddy

You gotta be kidding me , seriously ? Is this some kind of sick joke ?

I`m with you sparrowdown , I`m utterly gobsmacked if this is true .

smiddy

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Reveal News: "Jehovah’s Witnesses fight law on reporting child sex abuse to police" by Trey Bundy

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-fight-law-requiring-child-sex-abuse-be-reported-to-police/.

jehovah’s witnesses fight law on reporting child sex abuse to police.

trey bundy, february 1, 2016 .

smiddy

I thought the official position with the Governing Body of Jehovah`s Witnesses , was that they did not have a Clergy laity class. Full stop.

I`m going back about 50 years now .

And I agree fully with Scully regarding the Sacramental Confession does not apply to Jehovah`s Witnesses as her/his post points out .

The confessor is one person , the priest is one other person , and no other human hears this confession.

With JW`S a confession may be made to one Elder , however it will then be brought to another Elders attention and then a Judicial Committee is formed involving another three Elders to investigate further what has been disclosed .

smiddy

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Are J .W`s elligible for the Guinness Book of records for the most flip flops on doctrines ? In their 140? or so year history ?

by smiddy in

would the jehovah`s witnesses be a shoe in , for the most about face , flip flop , of doctrine , beliefs , and practices in this 21st century , to have previously strongly held beliefs and then for them to be discarded in their 140 ?

year history ?.

i think they take the cake .. smiddy.

smiddy

Would the Jehovah`s Witnesses be a shoe in , for the most about face , flip flop , of doctrine , beliefs , and practices in this 21st Century , to have previously strongly held beliefs and then for them to be discarded in their 140 ? or so . year history ?

I think they take the cake .

smiddy

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Stepping out of the shadows

by contramundum in

i have been lurking on the site for a few months and thought it about time i plucked up the courage to step out of the shadows and say hello.. i am in the process of fading after realizing all is not right with the organization i had trusted implicitly for over 40 years.

there have always been 'truths' i have struggled to accept entirely, even as a child, but was confident that trusting in jehovah, building my faith and remaining patient would be enough to settle any nagging doubts that remained, so i pushed any inconsistencies to the back of my mind and concentrated on being the best witness that i could be.. over the last few years, however, i have been preoccupied with a number of crises in my family and stepping back slightly from 'theocratic' activity has allowed me to re evaluate a number of concerns and research sources other than the sanitized wt publications.. my eyes are now wide open - i found things which have appalled me and left me feeling extremely let down and disappointed by people i had really trusted.. i tried gently raising a few subjects with my mum (who was baptized early '70s and still remains a staunch wt supporter) but she will hear no criticism of the organization.

i understand this because the best part of her life has been invested in the religion and to acknowledge it may have got things wrong would be to recognize the last 40 years have been a vain waste.

smiddy

Welcome Contramundum

I can understand you no rocking the boat with your mum at this stage , no point.

Welcome to the board by the way and take your time in your fade .

Don`t be too trusting with your " friends in the truth" it may surprise you how many want to gain browny points by outing some brother or sister to the body of elders , just be aware,

take care

smiddy