warning of a long boring post ahead.
i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.
i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.
Welcome Sanchy and PatKim from Australia
,My heart goes out to you guys finding out TTATT and still having beleiving mates by your sides . Apart from realising it`s not the truth , which is a great stress in itself , you have to be very careful with your relationship with your wife whom you both obviously love.
I wish you both all the best for the future and hope everything works out for the best for your families .
smiddy
mailing packages with garlic bread enclosed to still in family.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
A person in a religion who commits a sin/crime confessors to a minister/priest , whoever , and it remains solely between the two of them , then that is clergy privilege and confidentiality , it goes no further.
Jehovah`s Witnesses violate that procedure , their is no confidentiality because they involve multiple other party`s .including other Elders, and the Legal Department .
Jehovah`s Witnesses have always maintained they do not have a Clergy Class .So why appeal in a court of law that they do ?
A penitent who approaches a Clergy person does so to confess a wrongdoing and seek guidance and counselling , not to be subjected to a judicial Commission and be disfellow-shipped and shunned by family and friends of their religion .
In the case of a sex crime committed to a minor by an older person , it`s a legal responsibility for whoever know`s about it , clergy or not , to report it to the relevant authorities .
Jehovah`s Witnesses fail on all counts.
smiddy
a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".
can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.
thanks.
All of you people quoting examples of "Christians" before C.T.Russell and the "Jehovah`s Witnesses "movement.are missing the point , JW`s don`t recognize anybody , or organized Religion before C.T.Russell as being Christian after 100 A.D.
True Christians according to JW theology was from Jesus baptism , till approximately 100 A.D.
Then their was the Apostacy from Approx. 100 A.D. till the late 1800`s when C.T.Russell appeared on the scene.when true Christians appeared on the scene as the I.B.S.A. , later to be re-named Jehovah`s Witnesses
smiddy
my wife was invited by her past employer to a dinner as guest of honour.
guess..?
the dinner coincided with a meeting..
Zeb
Don`t keep us in suspense , what happened ? Fill us in with the details .
smiddy
i watched this 10 part series the other day and i was appalled at the investigation conducted by the police , especially the way they conducted their investigation with brendan vassey , his interrogation and obvious manipulation by the police officers , i couldn`t believe he was convicted , and sentenced to a jail term.. to any intelligent person with any sense of compassion could see brendan vassey was intellectually disadvantaged , yet these police officers exploited that failing of this boy .he should never have been convicted , his case should have been thrown out of court , the fact that he has been in jail over 10 years is a gross miscarriage of justice .. the conviction of steven avery seemed to me to be a set up also from what was presented on netflix ,.
i am no fan of steven avery ,i think he is a bit of a hillbilly type , that has had no problem with cruelty to animals , which i abhor ,yet i do think he has been railroaded in this conviction ,while the real killer and rapist goes free .. what are your thoughts .
smiddy.
I watched this 10 part series the other day and I was appalled at the investigation conducted by the police , especially the way they conducted their investigation with Brendan Vassey , his interrogation and obvious manipulation by the police officers , I couldn`t believe he was convicted , and sentenced to a jail term.
To any intelligent person with any sense of compassion could see Brendan Vassey was intellectually disadvantaged , yet these police officers exploited that failing of this boy .He should never have been convicted , his case should have been thrown out of court , the fact that he has been in jail over 10 years is a gross miscarriage of justice .
The conviction of Steven Avery seemed to me to be a set up also from what was presented on Netflix ,
I am no fan of Steven Avery ,I think he is a bit of a hillbilly type , that has had no problem with cruelty to animals , which I abhor ,yet I do think he has been railroaded in this conviction ,while the real killer and rapist goes free .
What are your thoughts
smiddy
a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".
can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.
thanks.
Ian Reilly was charged and convicted of murdering his pregnant wife in Queensland in the late 1980`s ? they were both special pioneers and served where the need was great in Australia
After his release from jail he was still an active JW and married a fellow witness .
smiddy
although tomo's human hotdogs was as low as an alleged human could verbally go, tomo's fear-mongering was not an official video.. i'm wagering that the feb 2016 video will be pulled or adjusted.. what do you think, trash?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68pcx7ztac.
What has ToMo got against garlic bread .? it doesn`t soil the bread it enhances it in my opinion .
Keep videos like these coming JW.ORG , their sure to wake more people up to this cult , it`s probably one of the best things they have done to help people exit the JW`s
Instead of being mysterious G.B. members , that held a mystique about them , they are now in full view as to what buffoons they really are .
They expose themselves as the Emperor with no clothes .
smiddy
i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.
a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.
if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.
Threaten to sue those that took the pictures and the elders for stalking , if they take any action over this and make sure you name names in the lawsuit , I guarantee they wont take any action . ( you don`t have to actually do it but make the threat that you will convincingly )
smiddy
this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".
yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.
besides we were never going to die anyway.
You gotta be kidding me , seriously ? Is this some kind of sick joke ?
I`m with you sparrowdown , I`m utterly gobsmacked if this is true .
smiddy
