Thanks Steph , however do they really forgive 2 or 3 times ? The experiences I remember they cant wait for someone to stumble so they can have a JC against them.
Posts by smiddy
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JW.org Caption Competition
by pale.emperor inyour challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to go onto jw.org.
take one of their pics from any publication and add your own speech bubbles or caption.. here's mine.
picture taken from the watchtower feb 2017.. .
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"But I was just following order and directions!" The 'outsourcing' of personal responsibility
by stuckinarut2 ina thought struck me that throughout history people have often claimed that "i was simply following orders and directions" when it comes to their actions or beliefs.. instead of using logical thinking skills to determine if the course of action is correct, they just assume that it is based on a superior telling them so.. think of someone handling finances for a corrupt boss.
if asked to hide sums of money illegally, can they just say to the authorities "i was just following directions"?.
or as we know, war crimes have occurred in history and the same excuses have been used.. similarly, it seems that witnesses "outsource" their thinking abilities to the society and gb and think and act exactly as directed...even if such changes dramatically as have many, many teachings and beliefs.. think of all the far out and strange things in the society's history.
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smiddy
Rank & file members , ordinary publishers of jehovahs Witnesses are not representatives of the WTB&TS.and they are instructed not to claim such.
I wonder how many JW`s actually get the sense of that .?
The rank & file jehovahs witnesses are no more than a body of people who volunteer to give support to the organization of Jehovahs witnesses to do the preaching work.
They are not in the employ of the WT organization and have no claim to any suit that can be brought against the WTB&TS for any cause ,civil or otherwise.
Of course it may be a different kettle of fish for the higher ups , lawyers ,Governing Body members etc., maybe even DO , and Co `s
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Why Is YHWH Used Regularly In OT and NEVER in NT?
by minimus inand if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
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smiddy
The four Hebrew letters that represent God`s name in the Old Testament (hebrew Scriptures ) the tetragrammaton do not appear in the New Testament the Christian Greek Scriptures.
Nor do any equivalent four letter Greek letters translated from the Hebrew , the Tetragrammaton exist in the New Testament,to represent the name of God. Their just not their.
Those four consonants , translated in english from Hebrew as either JHVH or YHWH , contained in the Old Testament are their because they exist in the Old Testament Hebrew sources.
And so the name Jehovah / Yahweh (preferably ) is warranted in the Old Testament .
But the same cannot be said about that name for God or any other name for God in the new testament.because the source of these texts do not contain those four letters either in Greek or Hebrew to warrant their inclusion in the New Testament,
Neither Jesus , the Apostles ,nor his disciples ever used the " word" Jehovah in the New testament /Christian Greek Scriptures
Not one of them ever used that word Jehovah /Yahweh , not one of them.
Yet in the Christian Greek Scriptures the New Testament plainly states that the name of JESUS is to be "exalted above" every other name in Heaven , on Earth , and under the Earth.
The Bible clearly shows that followers of Jesdus Christ were by
" Divine providence " to be called Christians ( not Jehovahs Witnesses )
That is from the mouth of God., if you put your faith in the Bible.and not a man made organization of the late 1800`s ,when so many religions began.
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Is Satan really the bad guy in story of creation?
by evilApostate ini wanted to take an objective look at satan in the story of creation.
this is not meant to offend those of you who are still christians.
i'm agnostic btw.
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smiddy
It`s all a political stunt , under the guise of relgion
Satan blames God
God blames Satan
The theocratic party
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The Independant thinking Party
The bible is a campaign book offering both parties point of view
Who do you want to vote for God or Satan,you have heard both sides of the story , which one is telling the truth or are they both lying just to get your vote.
Or is one party or the other using half truths to muddy the waters.
And people are still debating which side won after all these thousands of years .
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Hi forum
by A Believer ini proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.
i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.
i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.
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smiddy
A Believer , welcome to the forum
.Phil: 2:9 -11,the name of Jesus is to be exalted above every other name ,in heaven and earth and under the earth .(including the name Jehovah)
Acts 11:26 Followers of Jesus Christ were by Divine Providence called Christians ,take note "by Divine Providence" followers of Jesus were to be called Christians , not Jehovahs Witnesses.
The name Jehovah in the New Testament does not belong their as the four letters representing the name of God does not appear in the New Testament according to the WTB&TS `s own publication ,the KI of The Christian Greek Scriptures.
Do a bit more in-depth study my friend.
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Jehovah Witness victims of Childhood Sex Abuse - from the state of New York - and non Jehovah Witness victims, along with all supporters
by Sol Reform injehovah witness victims of childhood sex abuse - from the state of new york - and non jehovah witness victims, along with all supporters - you're all invited to a press conference and movie screening in support of statute of limitation reform.. .
press conference and movie screening in support of statute of limitation reform .
advocates for reform of ny's too-weak childhood .
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smiddy
This cancer of child sexual abuse seems to be endemic in society , including the most trusted in public service that are supposed to be protecting the young vulnerable in society .
It seems no wonder little is accomplished when those that are supposed to be protecting our young ones are themselves complicit in abusing these vulnerable children .
How do we combat this crime when the powers that be are complicit in this crime ?
Anybody ? have any solutions ?
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Something funny about Armageddon
by evilApostate inyears ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.
we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.
she believed in hellfire.
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smiddy
Jehovahs witnesses are prominent in already established "christian " lands , lands that have already been "witnessed" to and converted by christendoms religions ,often centuries before.
So Jehovahs Witnesses have not opened new grounds for their evangelism /witnessing , they are just following in the footsteps of missionaries that have gone on before them and have laid the groundwork for them .
They, the JW`s , come along and poach those of christendoms converts from already established christianised nations and then claim they have witnessed to the world .
When in fact all they have done is changed one brand of christianity to another brand of christianity .
They have not made any in-roads at all .
Italy , Brazil , Mexico ,Spain ,Australia ,USA ,UK ,Ireland ,Canada, just to name a few are already christianised countries as a result of christendoms missionaries .
Where is the phenonemal growth in countries like Bangladesh , Pakistan ,Indonesia, China, India ,Saudia Arabia , Quatar , Phillipines , Jordan , etc,etc,.
Their is no growth in any of these lands and the majority of inhabitants of these countries have never heard of Jehovh or his witnesses., in fact in many of them they dont even exist.
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Entertainment: What's everybody reading or into right now?
by schnell ini picked up bernard cornwell's the pagan lord at the library.
historical fiction set in england after the death of alfred the great.
i'm loving it, especially the between-the-lines wit and sense of timing in cornwell's writing, and the complete badassery of the protagonist.
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smiddy
As I`ve got older its much easier to watch TV series now than falling asleep after reading a couple of pages of a book
We have netflix , and we have enjoyed watching a number of mini-series from europe and elswhere , just to mention a few.
The prisoner ( Israeli )
Borgen ( Danish )
Eyewitness ( Norwegiian )
Homeland ( USA )
And currently Designated Survivour ( USA )
House of Cards ( USA )
The bridge and the tunnell ( british /french )
I just realised I have become a couch potato , never mind I have now Joined a mens gym at my local health centre to keep me active..
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Taking the Step
by beardfreedom infirst time posting after years of reading, the things i have learned here have gradually helped to open my eyes to the reality of this religion.
though i have been mentally out for some time, lately i have stopped going to meetings and service.
the elders are calling and i have been ignoring them, i am trying to get up the courage to finally break free and never go back.
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smiddy
Welcome beardfreedom,true the transition can be a bit daunting for a while adjusting to your fade/exit ,but believe me when you look back on this stage of your life you will say "how did I ever believe it in the first place"
Elders are big fish in a little pond , you dont owe them anything , and the power they have over you is only the power you give to them.
They are nobodys trying to be somebody and the religion gives them that egotistical outlook .
Dont be sucked in by it.
The longer you are away from the influence of the cult the easier it becomes .
Take care.
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JW.org Caption Competition
by pale.emperor inyour challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to go onto jw.org.
take one of their pics from any publication and add your own speech bubbles or caption.. here's mine.
picture taken from the watchtower feb 2017.. .
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smiddy
I wish I was tech savvy , thats excellent pale emperor , their are so many opportunities here if this can be exploited .
An example Matt 18: 21-22 "Then Peter came up and said to him lord how many times is my brother to sin against me and am I to forgive him ? up to seven times ? Jesus said to him I say to you not up to seven times but up to seventy seven times"
Does that sound like a judicial committee in a Kingdom hall near you ?
I hope to see many more of these captions