i was so impressed by what the brazilian xjw's are doing to inform the world about jw's unfair and harmful sanctions put upon those who leave the religion that i just had to share their efforts with you.
congratulations are in order for a work well done.
i asked sebastiao ramos ramos, a former jw to explain in english what abravipre is all about.
Thank you Barbara for posting this.I`m a PC ignaramus ,so i cant see the site .
However , I appreciate the Brazilian ex-JW brothers in doing what they can to expose the intolerance the WT Society puts their former members through .
I hope something positive comes out of this.
moses has a history of what 80+ years as a servant of jehovah ?
in one form or another .. moses wrote / penned the first five books of the bible and went through many trials and tribulations in serving his god jehovah in his long lifetime.interacting with god at times.. jesus was born and nothing is recorded of him until he is a young adolescent child ?
and very little about him.. then we are introduced to him when he is 30 years old and gets baptised ,and only then does he start his preaching .. does he start preaching to the world ?
Moses personal influence over the Jews extended to a few generations in his lifetime..And his writings and influence extended to far more generations for many Centuries to come.
Jesus personal influence over the Jews was confined to the one generation he witnessed to . Jesus , of himself can take no credit for his popularity for anything he published ,because he didnt publish anything.
And he only preached to a select few and he never wrote anything down for the Jews or anybody else for prosperity.
Jesus Christ never published anything in behalf of any other nationality or group whether they be women or slaves .His primary concern was for the Jews of his generation.
It is the people who came to be his followers that exalted Jesus to the prominence that we find him to be today .
hello fellow apostates!
my first post and a long time lurker here.
i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".
T-shirts like these just look like your promoting WT propaganda.you need to satire the message.
Example : Youth getting the best out of it { with a reference for the masturbating video for the deaf} that all youths can enjoy .
or , My Book of Bible B.S. Stories to Stuff your life up.
The truth that leads to an Eternal life of Hell (with a wj logo) upside down.
Revelation its grand climax is in your hand . (no explanation needed here )
moses has a history of what 80+ years as a servant of jehovah ?
in one form or another .. moses wrote / penned the first five books of the bible and went through many trials and tribulations in serving his god jehovah in his long lifetime.interacting with god at times.. jesus was born and nothing is recorded of him until he is a young adolescent child ?
and very little about him.. then we are introduced to him when he is 30 years old and gets baptised ,and only then does he start his preaching .. does he start preaching to the world ?
Moses has a history of what 80+ years as a servant of Jehovah ? in one form or another .
Moses wrote / penned the first five books of the Bible and went through many trials and tribulations in serving his God Jehovah in his long lifetime.Interacting with God at times.
Jesus was born and nothing is recorded of him until he is a young adolescent child ? and very little about him.
Then we are introduced to him when he is 30 years old and gets baptised ,and only then does he start his preaching .
Does he start preaching to the world ? No ,he confines himself to preaching only to the Jews. (what about the rest of us ?)
For three years he preaches only to the Jews ,mind you verbally he never writes anything down , I wonder why that is if he was sent to be a saviour of the world.?
The majority of things attributed to Jesus are by people that came after him and not what he said or did.
Moses served his God Jehovah for at least 40 years and acheived a lot in that time and wrote five books of the Bible.
Jesus ? preached for 3 years to a small group of jewish people under Roman rule ,never writing anything down for the benefit of the jewish community he preached to let alone the human race he is supposed to save as a human sacrifice on their behalf.?
And Jesus is supposed to be the greater Moses ? Who is kidding who here .
And what is more importantly what has he done since being installed as King in 1914 ?
why does the wt interpret matt.24:34 "truly i say to you this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
" as having overlapping generations ?
and not applying the same reasoning to any other scripture/s referring to a generation or this generation .?
The generation depicted on the front cover of the Watchtower showing faithfull believers that would not pass away.
Did in fact pass away everyone of them .
The Governing Body then had only one interpretation of a generation that was consistent with the Bible When that failed then they had to re-invent what a generation was in opposition to what the Bible says about a generation.
The overlapping generation "New Light" only came about because of their failed prophecy/interpretation of scripture because of their admission they are not inspired nor are they infallible.
the head, jesus christ, supplies the body members with what is needed for good cooperation, coordination, and spiritual nourishment.
in such respects, the governing body is organized to take the lead as jehovah directs them by holy spirit.. 2008 wt 5/15 pg 29. the party's over....
Jesus Christ has been ruling in heaven for the past 102 years now since 1914 and his Earthly organization Jehovahs Witnesses have just recently admitted they are neither inspired or infallible .
WTF ? Whats he been doing these past 102 years ? Is he incompetent ?
Did JAH make a mistake in choosing him ?
Are the JW`s not his chosen people ?
Is this what we can expect for the next 900 years of Jesus Christs 1000 year reign ? more dissapointment ?
jws like to think they have found the one true religion.
but like so many other religious people, it's usually the religion they were born into, the only religion they know because it's the first one they found or, at the most, one of two or three (typically the second one after they left their first / born-in faith).. the trouble is, there simply isn't enough time to explore and investigate each and everyone of the many thousands of belief systems, religions and sects around the world.. think of it this way: which is the best neighbourhood to live in where you would be most happy and most successful?
not just in the city or even the country you are in, but the entire world.. how would you ever know?
Finding the one true religion is impossible simply because their is no one true religion just as their are no multiple true religions.
All religions have some truth in them just as all religions have plenty of bullshit in them.
Philosophy has truth in it also , do we seek the one true philosophy ?
my real name is benjamin heath, i live in southern oregon, usa, and you can always reach me on twitter @ben_heath_.
i have also rebooted my blog at benheathonline.com which is linked with my twitter.
i intend to write about experiences at work and in life, as well as whatever it is i'm reading about at the moment.. i'm a programmer by hobby, a truck driver by profession, an atheist by education and reasoning, and an ex-jw by choice.
You`ve got balls schnell good luck to you and welcome to the board .As for the rest of the comments they have just gone completely over my head being a PC ignoramus and my excuse is my age
Technology just seems to be moving on at a tremendous pace nowadays I`d love to be around in another 100 years or so ,the world will/could be a fantastic place .
No thanks to the JW religion.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
258 pages is that a record set by cofty ? If not who holds the record ?
sorry to go off topic.
why does the wt interpret matt.24:34 "truly i say to you this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
" as having overlapping generations ?
and not applying the same reasoning to any other scripture/s referring to a generation or this generation .?
Why does the WT interpret Matt.24:34 "Truly I say to you this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." as having overlapping generations ? And not applying the same reasoning to any other scripture/s referring to a generation or this generation .? Ph.2:15 ,Ps.48:13 ,Ps.78:4,Ps 79.:13, Ps.100:5 ,Mtt.12:39 Mtt.23:36 ,Lu.21:32
Quite frankly the overlapping generation interpretation is even more ridiculous when considering these scriptures about a generation or this generation.
And their is no scriptual validation for the Governing Body to make such a claim of an overlapping generation.
