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  Selling Sacramento, CA Convention Deal to Skeptical Public

  by dannyboy in

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  i live near sacramento, ca and earlier this week the local convention authority held a big deal press conference announcing a "deal" with jehovah's witnesses (see clip below).

  based on comments to local news media on their websites, more than a few people are not too crazy about the idea..... i heard an interview on a local station where the head guy [of the convention authority] was defending (sounded very defensive) the city's deal with the dubs, by saying "well, they'll bring hotel dollars, food dollars, and they'll be visiting all of our local museums, evening life, and entertainment attractions.....so the monetary impact will be huge for us...".

  specifically discouraged from doing any of those "extra" things..... hope those attractions aren't hiring more employees to handle the witness "crowds"........ also, during the interview, he said that the convention authority would be able to select the dates for the various conventions.

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  Welcome to the board Barb Michaels from OZ fill us in about yourself when you are comfortable enough to do so.
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  Is it just for social reasons you remain?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  as someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!

  why is this the case you may ask?.

  if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.

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  I can go back about 35-40 years ago when an elder and his wife we associated with said to my wife who then did tend to miss a few meetings " why dont you just come along for the social aspect of the meetings "
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  Questions for the Biblical God

  by Saethydd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i consider myself an agnostic, i feel no sense of certainty that there is a single all-powerful creator who made the entire universe, and yet i must acknowledge that the universe is a large place that is filled with much beauty so the possibility of an intelligent mind being behind it is certainly there.

  lately, however, i do have more and more doubts about the god of the bible being a candidate for that all-powerful creator should such a being even exist at all.. these doubts are founded upon a number of questions for which i have never found any satisfying biblical or logical answer.

  instead, i was simply chided with the remark that "god's actions aren't always meant to be understood by humans," which i found to be a very unsatisfying answer.

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  "I must acknowledge that the Universe is a large place that is filled with much beauty so the possibillity of an intelligent mind being behind it is certainly their."

  The Universe is also a place of massive destruction and chaos .Stars that die ,Galaxys that collide ,super nova`s ,meteorites that collide with planets ( not just earths ) just to name a few examples .

  Why does every living thing on this planet live off the death of another living thing ? Whether its life on the land in the skys or under the sea ,every living thing preys on another living thing .

  And dont get me started on how bloodthirsty Jehovah is ,having his people slaughtering millions of animals and birds to satisfy his blood lust as sacrifices to appease him .
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  Is account of Ananias & Sapphira genuine?

  by anointed1 in

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  2. beliefs

  1) ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (acts 5:1, 2) peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of ananias: “the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (acts 5:9).

  death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?.

  2) in this incident, peter seems to be over-righteous!

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  NO , for the next 2000 years no such judgements have ever been made for the attrocities committed in the name of the Christian religion nor the false prophecys of the JW`s or the crimes committed by JW`s held in good standing.

  Ananias & Sapphira`s account happened after Jesus resurrection so by all accounts any other infringement should be punished , if it was at all true.
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  Name one Watchtower date that they got correct

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  it was the year 2011. remember that one?

  surprise, surprise -- it wasn't one of their predictions.

  it was from one of their competitors, harold camping.. "religious leaders sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers.

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  The GB and WT writers are liars when they speak of predicting anything about 1914. As pointed out in the above posts they have no problem revising their history to fit the facts .However JW`s are too lazy and ignorant to research the publications of that era.exposing such lies.
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  Does The Multiverse Really Exist? (Shrinking Jehovah To Insignificance)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5sr2z-pvm.

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  I can see some Aliens in these bubbles from the centre start button actually he appears in the four blue bubbles.

  Is that Jah in Multiverse existence ? It looks more like some being out of Star Trek.
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  If the Faithful and Discreet Slave is Biblically based, shouldn't its term of indenture be long over?

  by kepler in

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  well, we start out with a parable which in the kjv reads "well done, o good and faithful servant", corrected to be a slave and one of significant authority akin to the "fisherman" or the shepherd.

  moreover it is collective.

  and it didn't know it was discrete until after attorney moyle was told by rutherford that he talked too much.

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  Crazyguy , Every baptised witness of Jehovah is a slave to the Watchtower Organisation , period.

  If Jehovah God wants or needs a Faithful and Discreet Slave (class ) ,what does that say about him ?
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  Fading or Disassociating

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, i'm new here.. i'm a college student who has been raised in the "truth" for my entire life.

  i was baptized at 10 years old, and looking back now i know i didn't fully grasp everything involved, for one thing i don't even recall ever going to jehovah in a special prayer to dedicate myself to him, but anyway that's the past and my focus is really on the present.

  i'm currently pursuing an associates degree, but i find myself desiring to pursue a bachelors in my chosen field so that i may have a somewhat more secure future.

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  Welcome to the board Saethydd I wish you well in whatever you choose to do.I dont envy you getting reinstated having to jump through hoops the way they make you do ,all meeting attendance ,field service if applicable ,studying WT crap

  But hey thats just me ,you do seem to have it all worked out and you have got good advice from folk on here.

  I wish you well in whatever you decide to do .

  Take care.
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  Ananias & Sapphire and JWs

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when people like ananias and sapphire tried to take the honor that did not belong to them, they were instantly struck with death-penalty.

  (acts 5:1-11) when jws did the same taking the glory of being god’s spokesperson on earth (by proclaiming to the world something as though god revealed to them—eg “generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away”) god did not respond.

  in the same vein, when moses and aaron said “they were going to bring water from the rock” (instead of jehovah), god punished them instantly.

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  If nothing else, it should demonstrate to you that the Bible and its storys are nothing more than that, fictional storys.

  Charles Taze Russell started off his religion as a publishing endeavour which grew into a publishing empire and at the same time he was instrumental in establishing a real estate empire that his sucessors expanded upon.

  Lately we seem to be seeing a reversal of these fortunes with the sell off of properties all over the world ,the reduction in printing materials as well as the quality of such materials and the dumbing down of the content of the reduced printing that is provided .

  If the storys you mention in your OP were/are true ,then why has not Jehovah acted out his vengence on all the JW`s ,Elders MS ,and the rank & file who have committed crimes of every sort while still being in good standing as a Jehovahs Witness.?

  No such action has ever been taken.

  Google crimes committed by Jehovahs Witnesses ,every crime you can think of has been committed by them.
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  How does the overlapping generation ( interpretation) apply to these scriptures ? ,part 2.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wonder how the overlapping generation interpretation by the wt /jw religion applys to these scriptures reffering to a generation or these generations.. a generation reffering to one that the bible scriptures acknowledge is approximately 50 years in length give or take a few years.. mathtew chap 1:abraham born in 2018 , jesus born in 2 bc , =2016 divided by 42 generations as stated in matthew chapter 1 amounts to 43 years for a generation.. so how does an overlapping generation fit in with the wt interpretation with this scripture for a generation.?.

  obviously an overlapping generation does not apply here .. so when does the jw/gb apply an overlapping generaration and when do they not apply an overlapping generation ?.

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  Thank you The Searcher ,some time ago I posted about a generation lasting somewhere between 30-50 years but no later .

  I used three Bible accounts to support the scriptures definition of a generation fitting in with that.

  { By two or three witnesses a matter would be established Deut 19:15 }

  Thank you for those extra scriptures that support a generation being less than 50 years long.