did you notice the expression "intelligent disobedience" in the febuary 2017 broadcast (at 7:30)?.
it was used with the illustration of a guide dog for blind persons, that sometimes has to disobey it's owner.. what a fine example for us!
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As a general rule I have found this to be true.
As I have said before and will say yet again Jehovahs Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth .
They speak with a forked tongue.
When you confront them with one thing they have said in print ,they can always quote an opposite thing they have said in print and if you challenge them about it ? What you say is old light and what they say is new light.
two ironys here... first of all the title "keep in expectation as jehovahs day draws near" - (this talk is from 2006!!
) i suppose 11 years isnt near enough.
second is that geoffrey jackson, of all people, is giving a talk that goes on and on about liars and how jehovah never lies.
So according to the opening post Armageddon could be thousands of years away as DOC rightly points out JW`s quote the Bible that states a thousand years is as one day and a day as a thousand years
So thats a good point to bring up the next time a JW calls on your door
And when they bring up times are critical and hard to deal with in this last Century and now ,ask them what century has this never been the case?
Its always been the case.
hi everyone, i've just registered and thought i might introduce myself and tell my experience.
my name's raquel.. i was born into a jw family.
i started leading a double life around 14y/o and got caught drinking by another sister when i was 15 and saw that as my opportunity to quit the panthomime and stopped going to the meetings.
Welcome Raquel its never too late to join this forum and start living your life the way you want to without fear or obligations to anyone.
Your saving grace was never being baptised with your relationships in your family.Good for you.
A helpful tip : Use the search option to get information on any subject you want to know about.
Or just ask questions on here , everybody is more than willing to help.
And that goes for any newbies or lurkers reading this.
Take care.
when you compare all the communications jehovah god had with humans whether it was by angels ,dreams ,or prophets as well as his intervention in human affairs when it suited him and their are many examples in the old testament to look at for about 4000 years .
the same cannot be said for jesus christ as king of kings to sit on the throne to rule over the earth for a thousand years.
in one sense he was king of christians 2000 years ago in another sense according to jw`s he was enthroned in 1914-18 for the next 1000 years.. whether you believe he was king over christians on his ascencion to heaven or his enthronement in 1914-18 for 2000 + years we have not had any communication from either god jehovah or christ jesus in any form one way or another.for the past 2000 years.. for the first 4000 years you couldnt shut jehovah up ,and the next 2000 years you dont here a beep out of jehovah or christ jesus.. for jw apologists when god gave a ruling/decree in the old testament how many times did he adjust /redefine/change what he said using the excuse "the light gets brighter and brighter" ?
When you compare all the communications Jehovah God had with humans whether it was by Angels ,dreams ,or Prophets as well as his intervention in human affairs when it suited him and their are many examples in the Old testament to look at for about 4000 years
The same cannot be said for Jesus Christ as King of Kings to sit on the Throne to rule over the earth for a thousand years
In one sense he was King of Christians 2000 years ago In another sense according to JW`s he was enthroned in 1914-18 for the next 1000 years.
Whether you believe he was King over Christians on his ascencion to heaven or his enthronement in 1914-18 for 2000 + years we have not had any communication from either God Jehovah or Christ Jesus in any form one way or another.for the past 2000 years.
For the first 4000 years you couldnt shut Jehovah up ,and the next 2000 years you dont here a beep out of Jehovah or Christ jesus.
For JW apologists when God gave a ruling/decree in the Old Testament how many times did he adjust /redefine/change what he said using the excuse "the light gets brighter and brighter" ? NONE
And yet JW`s would have you believe God has been continuously doing this for the past 100 years not being able to give a precise or concise direction that didnt need to be changed after a couple of years .
don't post much lately, but wondering what folks are watching.
i'm enjoying the heck out of "penny dreadful", "outlander", and "grace and frankie".
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How about, Deadwood
Homeland
Westworld
Boardwalk Empire
Fargo
True Detective
The killing
The bridge
The tunnel
Prisoner
House of Cards
Designated Survivour
Just to name a few.
objective reading of scriptures can see many human thoughts in them.
objective analysis of religions would show that they exist primarily for their own benefit.
is science too travelling in the same direction?
The reason God is silent could be that God does not exist except in the minds of those who want to believe he/she exists.
ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.
if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.
however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.
Personally I dont care if these lawyers are labelled as sharks that see blood in the water or ambulance chasers who can make a dollar ,the fact that they are putting the spotlight on the JW religions failure to protect the children as opposed to protecting their image as a" Christian" religion is a great thing and all the publicity they make abou it all the better.
what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.
they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.
it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.
The JW religion is now no more than a social club and nothing more.
two ironys here... first of all the title "keep in expectation as jehovahs day draws near" - (this talk is from 2006!!
) i suppose 11 years isnt near enough.
second is that geoffrey jackson, of all people, is giving a talk that goes on and on about liars and how jehovah never lies.
Rev.22:20
" He that bears witness of these things says "yes i am coming quickly"
"Amen ! come,Lord Jesus "
That was over 2000 years ago.
How quick is quick in scripture ?
steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?
i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.
note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.
How many young guys have ditched their tight trousers has anybody noticed a trend to wear baggy pants at meetings nowadays ?
