it is a bad time to be awake;.
i see things i do not wish to see.. i have feelings i do not wish to feel.. if i could return to sleep, the deception.
of sweet slumber would assure that even a. nightmare might offer an escape, escape from.
Perry and his Bible quotes sources have obviously never had nightmares where you actually wake in terror because of your dream.
Children often wake in terror because of the nightmares they experience , is that a loving provision from GOD ?
Whereas it might be rationalised that adults have life experiences that may contribute to their having nightmares no such thing can be said of young children being subject to that.
my spouse and i were talking about something that was written last year (thinking about spring time maybe) that was in a letter read to the elders only talking about warwick and it mentioned - or hinted at maybe - that the righteous resurrected of old would have rooms made there (ya know, like carrying on the whole beth sarim idea again).
at first i thought this info was in a watchtower, but couldn't find it and that's when honey thought it was in a letter instead and might not have been public info.
does this ring a bell for anyone?
Surely something like that would not have gone unnoticed by the eagle eyes on this board ?.Just imagine the mileage we could get out of something like that.
We could have a field day.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
The predominant economy in the natural world would not be parasitic and predatory. The world really would show the loving qualities of its maker without having to ignore the majority of the facts.
I agree with your post Cofty especially the above quote.
I also found it funny that the Creator of the universe ,the ultimate chemist according to the WT/GB would give the ten commandments to Moses on tablets of stone. ? that couldnt ,didnt last ?
Surely he could have used something more durable ,like an alloy that was far more advanced than the time Moses was living in ? Something that has only been invented in our day or not even been discovered yet..?
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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I have signed this petition
it was always a long shot anyway.
but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.
that is a deity for ya!
My thoughts are with you Capt.Schmideo2, its frustrating I know.
Take care.
it was always a long shot anyway.
but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.
that is a deity for ya!
People who pray are very superstitious to think their prayers are going to be answered and when their not make all exuses and justifications for why it wasnt answered
When people pray and what they pray for does come about its an evidence that God hears their prayers and acts upon them ,and when prayers are not answered the excuses are numerous. Its Gods will ,he wanted another Angel ,Gods ways are higher than ours.etc.,etc.,
How presumptious of them to think that way
.A prayer is like flipping a coin their are only two options either it will be answered or it wont be answered It has nothing to do with a GOD who answers it or does not answers it.
alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
In answer to the OP ?
MY BLOODY OATH .I HAVE
in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .
natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?
or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.
Thats a good point Finkelstein , so true.
would you teach a heaven , hell, jesus , paradise.
what rule structure for discipline ect ,ect,.
I would have ten Commandments .
1. Do not follow an imaginary God
2.Shed your superstitions that a GOD exists .
3.You do not have to follow anybody.
4.Their is no priesthood or clergy class
5.Follow your dreams and aspirations.
6. Live life to the full .
7. Be theire for friend and neighbour
8.Dont think too much of yourself
9.Be forgiving
10.Be honest and true to yourself
(matthew 25:41-46) 41 “then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘be on your way from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 for i became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat, and i got thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink.
43 i was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.’ 44 then they also will answer with the words, ‘lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 then he will answer them with the words, ‘truly i say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 and these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”.
That is CLASSIC ,
Gods greatest Gift ? ignore the plight of the homeless /destitute /beggar , we want people who can donate to our cause and promote our Kingdom interests , stuff those who cant /wont help themselves , he`s got no money, so no value to us ,we just refuse to see him..
