Welcome venus look forward to more of your posts.
Posts by smiddy
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11Don’t share food with apostate—what about air we all breathe in?
by venus inwe have heard: “don’t share food with apostate.” what about sharing the air we all breathe in?
whether apostate or believer, both breathe in the same air (which is more important than food)!.
today i put this question to the couple who came to invite me for the memorial.
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Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?
by DATA-DOG inwith all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
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smiddy
The two witness rule is used by the JWs only as part of their own internal judicial system, to establish sin for disciplinary action of the one committing the sin but has a number of negative consequences.
Of course child sexual abuse is a crime and not a sin , so Elders who are informed of an allegation of sexual abuse against one of the children in the congregation regardless of whether it was committed by a fellow member or a non member , it should have been reported to the appropiate authorities when it came to their notice. regardless of whether a mandatory rule of law applied or not.
It was a moral responsability on their part which they failed to do.
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Talked to a JW at a literature stand today
by nevermind inguys,.
i need your help in trying to wrap my head around this strange experience i had today talking with a jw lady sitting at a literature table in a busy outdoor shopping center.. i'm a very shy person, but i always wanted to ask these jws at their literature stands questions to start them thinking about the validity of watchtower teaching.
i finally mustered my strength today to talk to this jw lady.
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smiddy
By the way welcome to the board nevermind .
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Uniting Church apologises to victims of sexual abuse, Jehovah's Witnesses defend treatment
by NikL inapologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
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smiddy
As an atheist determining who was more christian in their answers To the ARC the Uniting Church won hands down.
The UC were contrite in their answers and apologised and answered questions without trying to defend their failings.
In contrast the JW`s continually tried to defend the indefensible taking the ARC to task for not understanding their scriptual interpretations and continually defecting to legalisms much to the frustation of SC Angus Stewart
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Talked to a JW at a literature stand today
by nevermind inguys,.
i need your help in trying to wrap my head around this strange experience i had today talking with a jw lady sitting at a literature table in a busy outdoor shopping center.. i'm a very shy person, but i always wanted to ask these jws at their literature stands questions to start them thinking about the validity of watchtower teaching.
i finally mustered my strength today to talk to this jw lady.
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smiddy
The JW organisation are always re-writing their history and what has been written before is always "old truths" so they just mentally discard what was "true" to them previously -even facts of history.
I know its hard to get your head around this.Our minds boggle at the thought of it.
She is just obviously swallowing hook line and sinker whatever the GB says and refusing to use her own brain .
She is a typical WT robot.
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Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?
by DATA-DOG inwith all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
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smiddy
The ARC into child sexual abuse case 54 ,they need to be made aware that the 2 witness rule is not a 2000 year old scriptual requirement but actually a 4000 year old law given by Moses Deut.17:6
"at the mouth of two witnesses or of three witnesses the one dying should be put to death .He will not be put to death at the mouth of one witness."
Surely society has come a long way in caring for children and adults these past 4000 years. , if anyone condones this then they might as well condone the barbaric actions of Isis , Muslim extremists for adherring to hundreds of years old scriptures.
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QUESTIONS FOR THE ELDERS
by UnDisfellowshipped in1: what is the official watchtower society child abuse policy?.
22: are child molesters ever allowed to go door-to-door alone?
35: (very important question) is it true that former governing body member leo greenlees was removed from the governing body for a molesting a child?
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smiddy
Bumped in the light of the latest ARC case 54 .
Questions that were raised 14 years ago and it seems nothing has changed
Some excellent questions that were raised then about the two witness rule .
And some other very pertinent questions that are still not addressed even today.
This would have been a great thread for the ARC to sift through.
Enjoy
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The reality of "shunning" and character assasination highlighted at the Australian Royal Commission
by stuckinarut2 inonce again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
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smiddy
Spinks and O`brien might try to pull the wool over the eyes of the ARC , but they are too smart to fall for that trap.
The 2 JW`s were pathetic in their response to the ARC.
And its great to know that this expose of the JW religion is going all around the world that should help other honest hearted ones to just walk away from this mind controlling religion and live their own life.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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ARC Live Streaming site ?
by Gayle inwhat is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
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smiddy
Jwfacts ,that was priceless , those judges must be thinking what planet are these people on.
Unbelievable , the mind boggles.
Over 1100 people from all over the world were critical of the WT`s handling of child sexual abuse that QC Angus Stewart commented on.
The ARC were dissapointed that the GB of the WTB&TS refused to send a GB member to front the ARC.
Spinks and O`Brien are obviously way out of their depth in responding to the ARC they just come across as so inept .