Posts by smiddy

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The challenge of " truth" and " moral opinion"

by The Rebel in

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when growing up in a "proper" j.ws household:-.

a) our moral opinions are conditioned by this environment and upbringing.. b) to hold to jws belief and moral opinions gives our life purpose.. c) what we believe we hold it to be true.. d) in terms of approval it can be difficult for the mind to accept logical evidence if our life is based on "truth" and " moral opinions" that conflict with our conscience.. anyway i am not sure where i am going with this o.p?.

i guess my point is that settling factual and logical disputes with jws has proven more challenging than i realized.

smiddy

Jehovahs Witnesses are conditioned to believe morals are only bible based and if you leave the religion you lose your moral value.

This is absolute bullshit. the bible /religion has nothing to do with how moral people are.

The proof of this is in the millions of ex JW`s around the world who havent degenerated into a moral vacuum where anything and everything goes as the religion would have you believe.

Its just another lie they tell

Also the world is full of moral people who do not subscribe to any religious belief.

Did i understand correctly your OP ? The rebel

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Acts 17;24

by jehovahs is dead in

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smiddy

Is this a record for a first time poster ? Should we humour him/her?,seems to be muddled up in what its trying to say..

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Marry Only in the Lord

by Rattigan350 in

last night at the meeting, a local needs talk preempted the regularly scheduled part.

an elder who is the most society following elder talked about loving god and then he talked about bible principles such as marry only in the lord.

he talked of deut.

smiddy

" Marry only in the Lord ? How many failed marriages of jehovahs witnesses do you know of in your circle of friends .I think I have run out of fingers and toes to count from 1960 till now of so many failed marriages in the so called "truth"

Two within my own family.

And the reasons are just as diversified as any in the real world....Infidelity ,Incompatability ,etc,etc,

So ,are JW`s any more moral than worldly people ?....No ,because of the above reasons.

Do they have a better record of marriage success than worldly people ? judging by my experience and knowledge no ,I have been in more than 6 congregations in my 32 years in the religion and i have witnessed first hand marital breakups among brothers and sisters.in these congregations.

and I cant believe these were just isolated one offs that were not happening all over the world.

How about you and your congregation ? any similarities ?

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I have a big nose...

by The Rebel in

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surprisingly whilst hating being born with this over large nose, women have fallen in love with my nose.

so with regards to look and charm, what i hated about my physical attributes, many women have found attractive.

anyway i just wanted to say what we find unattractive about ourselfs, doesn't necessarily mean others do.

smiddy

Daniel craig ? no way I thought it was vladimir Putin ?

zeb ,I loved that movie ,so funny.and a feel good movie that familys could enjoy together.

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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

by Witness 007 in

some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

smiddy

Genesis 3:22 Jehovah speaks to his peers in saying "the man has become like one of us " Gods other than Jehovah ?

John 1:1 "the word was God" kingdom interlinear Translation ,KI, .word for word translation.of the Christian Greek Scriptures.published by yhe WTB&TS ,

Just saying.

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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

by Witness 007 in

some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

smiddy

This post by Witness 007 is 9 years old ,I wonder if he still thinks the same way today.?

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Your opinion is watchtower extremist?

by poopie in

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court gave 4 reasons you agree disagree.

smiddy

Jehovahs witnesses are conditioned to obey the governing body even if they dont understand or even agree with the direction they are given by the G.B.

The bottom line is obey the governing Body at all costs .

If thats not extremism I dont know what is.

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If you had to choose

by dothemath in

if you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.

smiddy

If I had to choose some/any religion on the pain of death ,I think I would choose death.

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JWs banned from Russia

by dogon in

so the russian have banned jws as a destructive cult.

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smiddy

JW`s are just one of many banned organizations their

Nothing special to see here .

They are not unique ?

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Voting

by confused in

hi guys,.

i have been told that a while ago there was a watchtower article that said that voting, (i'm in uk) is down to individual conscience.

i always thought it was a judicial matter.

smiddy

In Australia it is compulsory for people 18 years old to register to vote.

Their are also exceptions for people who do not want to vote such as religious objections.

Many Jw`s take advantage of that ,also many JW`s go to polling booths and cast informal votes either by stuffing up the procedure making it void or by adding Jesus Christ /jehovahs kingdom on the ballot paper which I did on many occasions.

Others just wait for a please explain letter and put religious exemption as a JW which I have also done and nothing more is heard about it again

Though I have been out for over 20 years now if you voted for a political party you would be denying your neutrality and rejecting Jehovahs Kingdom of Christ Jesus that would get you DF.