I have said it before and I will say it again .
Jehovahs Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth .
You cant trust anything they say or even what they put in print because they will change it given time.
so yesterday was the wt on vows.. it spoke, in part about two vows.
the vow you make in dedication and the vow of marriage.
here's how it describes them.. the most important vow that a christian can make is the one with which he dedicates his life to jehovah.
I have said it before and I will say it again .
Jehovahs Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth .
You cant trust anything they say or even what they put in print because they will change it given time.
hello every body!.
it's my thirst time here.
i'm verry glad to tell you my resignation as an elder in my local congregation.
JW-AWAKED J17
Welcome to the forum my friend we look forward to hearing more from you when you are ready to share your story or snippets thereof.
i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.
i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?
bueller?
If nothing else says that the Jehovahs Witnesses are a cult religion and they should be avoided at all costs is the fact that they "doctor" their own statements found in print.
As late as 1989, the WTS was still claiming that the end would happen before the close of the 20th Century
- see The Watchtower, January 1, 1989, page 12, paragraph 8.
Typically, though, the reprint of that issue of The Watchtower (i.e. in the "Bound Volumes") edited out all references to the "20th Century" and instead substituted "Our Time" in its place.
And lets not forget how they tried to shift the blame of the 1975 date for Armageddon in their publications onto the rank and file JW`s as being over-enthusiastic wanting the" end" of this system and the start of the" New System of things" under Christ Jesus and jehovah
i don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have.
but i am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken.
we've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.. my jw acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near.
Edmund Burke's famous quote (disputed) is that "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
Thanks simon for the quote.however I would change the words from "good men do nothing"
" to God/Jehovah does nothing."
Dont get your knickers in a not Phoebe ,JW`s are always looking for disasters natural or otherwise /Wars or terrorist attacks to push their agenda ,they have been doing it for more than a hundred years and they have never got anything right yet.
"Armageddon" has always been just around the corner as has the" Great Tribulation"
And their time-line is always way off.Because they dont know what they are talking about.
The king of the North was identified as the USSR some years ago (The USSR does not exist anymore)
The annointed were to become less in numbers as the years wore on ( In fact the numbers never decreased for 35 years 8000 and then actually increased to where they are today close to 16000 annointed)
Wasnt it just a few years ago they were planning a big expansion in KH `s growth ? around the world ?
What is happening now KH`s being sold mergers taking place on an unprecedented scale Why ? because the expected hope for increase is not happening .
In fact quite the opposite is happening their is no increase except for those already associated with JW`s such as children of JW`s in the western world .
The exception maybe in third world countries with low education and a lack of internet facillities.
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"we do sound like a cult..." so in the last few conversations i have had with my still deeply in friend she has mentioned this a couple times when lamenting things that don't seem right.
she has a relative that left and is telling everyone jw's are a cult.
she is very defensive and deeply disturbed by this accusation.
It sounds like she is just one hop,step,and a jump away from fading ,I can only hope so for her sake.
hello, all you damn dirty apostates!
please, allow me to join this community of diseased minds.
i have been lurking here for over 2 years and tonight i decided it's time to come out of the shadows.
I must add my welcome to you too S. N., thanks for sharing.
a thought occurred to us today about how christians, including witnesses love to quote some lovely passage of the bible as proof of god's love, or the value of the bible.. but just because a small passage or sentence is quoted doesn't mean the whole book is to be valued.. for instance, there may be a nice sentence or comment expressed in the passage of mein kampf, but would that make the book or it's author worthy of quoting or following?
the entire book and its message needs to taken into consideration!
(obviously that author had genocidal tendencies and disturbing ideas).
I`m pretty bloody sure their are far more negative scriptures in the Bible relating to humans , life or death accounts than their are positive scriptures that are verifiable.
Lets face it the Bible speaks out of both sides of its mouth.
On the one hand it says this
on the other hand it says that.
i've been watching this reality tv program called "catfish".
it deals with people who have had a rough deal with internet dating e.g fake profile, money scams etc.
any way there was one episode that really stuck out to me that made me realized the power of cognitive dissonance in dealing with jws.
We tend to believe what we want to believe in spite of the facts.
3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
All terroist attacks in the western world these past few years are all related to Muslims either home grown or coming in as refugees .
And the governments pussyfoot around about identyfying the source /core of the problem.
Blind freddy can see it .
Western nations will rue the day they let so many Muslims /terroists into their country for years if not decades to come.
the nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.
think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.
now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
Some of the sexless Angels were attracted to women yes ? and none of the sexless Angels who were attracted to women were attracted to males ?right ?
What does that tell us? In my mind it might indicate that the Bible writers were all heterosexuall men who secretly lusted after women and that their were no Angels with homosexual tendencies,
or were there .
Good point Island Man ,how did we ever take the Bible seriously.