quick question.
does anybody know what is said during the baptism i.e.
the actual dunking?
From my memory the dunkers dont say anything of any worth certainly nothing to do with your being dunked .
It was all said in the Baptismal talk ,lackeys who dunked were just that lackeys.
Welcome to the forum leftbehind I hope to hear more of you on here its a great site to vent or enquire and question.
While we are at it can anybody tell me what the Baptism questions were for the very early 1960`s? compared to what it is today ?
how many jws would kill a violent rapist in there home or protect their family with lethal means .
the one thing i love about the usa is the right to defend oneself with lethal force in their own home.
it's not that i want to kill someone but better them dead than my children..
With the way the Judicial system is being handled here in Victoria Australia.at the present time I`m afraid the perpetrators of a crime seem to have the law on their side.
And the victims are the losers especially where the criminals are given a slap on the wrist ,given probation and are free to commit more crimes and then get another slap on the wrist given bail and are free to commit more crimes.
And they do.
This is no joke this is truly the state of things in Vic Aust at the present time.under a labour Govt.
Their is plenty of talk about correcting this problem but the magistrates keep letting these crims out on the streets.
the word `intelligence' [from inter, “between” + legere, “ to read”] would mean ‘discern things as though reading in between the lines.
now read in between the lines of what moses wrote; his favored and frequent statement is this: ‘obedience to god means blessings, and disobedience means maledictions.’ (deut 28:1-68; 30:15-18) let us try to discern his motive behind this statement.. .
when moses wanted to present 10 commandments and other laws, he naturally wanted to prepare the israelites with a mind-set that ‘we must obey god, otherwise it is problem for us.’ the best way for this was to modify a well-known story of fall from other cultures.
The so called validation of the Christian Gospels is because of the eyewitness accounts of those related to the events that are written to have occured ,by either first hand or second hand witnesses.
We have no such validation of the Creation account only by someone so far removed from the event being more than 2000 years after the event
How reliable would that testimony be in a court of law ?
And their is no previous account that Moses refers to where he basis his knowledge on , in other words we are supposed to believe that jehovah God did not give any human information or knowledge about his creation until 2000 years after he had done so.? Not even to "Noah who found favour in the eyes of the Lord" ?
the word `intelligence' [from inter, “between” + legere, “ to read”] would mean ‘discern things as though reading in between the lines.
now read in between the lines of what moses wrote; his favored and frequent statement is this: ‘obedience to god means blessings, and disobedience means maledictions.’ (deut 28:1-68; 30:15-18) let us try to discern his motive behind this statement.. .
when moses wanted to present 10 commandments and other laws, he naturally wanted to prepare the israelites with a mind-set that ‘we must obey god, otherwise it is problem for us.’ the best way for this was to modify a well-known story of fall from other cultures.
My question is : Why wasnt the creation account written soon after it was supposed to have occured instead of some 2000 years later ?
That beggars belief. when you think about it.Where was god in all this time ? Didnt he have one single person who was a faithfull servant/worshiper in all this time ?
Of course their was no human eye witness to the Creation account ,but surely their were faithfull men other than Abel who could have written about the creation well before 2000 years before Moses came on the scene.?
And if their werent that raises a few more questions doesnt it ? So close to human perfection ?
so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.
i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.
my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.
If by faking it only means going to a meeting once or twice a week now and again I would suggest you consider it but not going from D2D ,I`d draw the line their .
But ultimately this has to be your decision and you are the one that has to live with it whatever the outcome so think seriously about the pros and cons of your decision.
If your parents are agreeable to you faking it maybe they too can help you in this regard making excuses etc for you of inquiring (sticky beaks ) minds.
Living with your aunt could be a good outcome ,however you need to weigh up in the balances what problems that could cause in family relationships .
I hope you find a solution that fits all partys here BlackWolf
Take care.
for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.
do people really believe that as a fact?.
seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!
So their was only one entrance to the garden of Eden and an impenetrable wall surrounding it ?
Maybe with an electrified fence which wasn`t invented yet and razor barbed wire on top of it which also wasn`t invented yet like a sword which wasn`t invented and a flaming one at that which still hasnt been invented .?
Adam talking to Eve after they have been kicked out of the Garden of Eden
Adam : " what are we going to do now Eve ,theirs an Angel with a flaming sword at the entrance to the garden of eden.?"
Eve : " Well all we have to do is walk around the perimeter for
100 feet and we can just walk right back in and eat the tree of life as theirs no flaming sword all around the Garden of eden only at the entrance.right ?
Not doing that maybe she was Blonde and he was a Dumbass
today represents for me something of a milestone.
after breaking both bones in my lower left leg nearly four months ago, i am now able to walk without the aid of crutches.
also, the orthopedic specialist has cleared me to once more drive a motor vehicle.
I must have missed this early post about your accident ? BB
I`m glad to hear your getting better even if it is slow as in one day at a time thing.
And I`ll join you in a couple of coldies with you to your good health no matter how far apart we are I`ll join you.
Take care Bro.
halluciengins, and several recent studies pointed out how we us only certain sections of our brain depending what is happening.
but some of them, like acid, make your entire brain turn on.
heightened senses.
appearing among other things that waste my time on the web today, was this vanity fair cover featuring a naked pregnant serena.
surely evidence that she no longer sees herself as even a jw associate, what's more likely does not give a stuff what her fomer loving brothers and sisters may think.. .
more info on the vf web-site: http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/06/serena-williams-cover-story.
I wonder if she still thanks Jehovah for her successes like she did on the tennis courts.?
maybe she is another one who has distanced herself from the jehovahs Witness religion ?
Not that she was ever baptised but maybe she now has said enough is enough.?
a couple of years and the wtbts will consist of a bloke on a tropical beach, drinking coctails and writing the latest wacktower crap on his lap top to be emailed to all congregations for them to print, distribute and then transfer funds to his own personal off shore account!watch and see!.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/158870/brothers-were-living-exciting-times#!#2919592.
Yes that has been manifest for the past 140 years ,We have been well aware by now that a prophet , a false prophet , has been among us and it is identified as the Jehovahs Witness religion otherwise known as The WTB&TS
