after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.
what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?
do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?
Welcome Fader812 ,your not alone my friend their are many on this board that have already gone through what you are going through and believe me some have much worse experiences than most of us.
Stick around, ask questions, share your point of view ,you wont be judged its a discussion forum where you can say what you want and wont be hurled before a JC committee.LOL
I look forward to your future posts.
my old congregation's regional convention was the week before last, and for the first time in 20 years, i wasn't there.
instead on the very same weekend, i went to a geeky fan convention called magic city con.
i had loads of fun there, i cosplayed as a jedi and the doctor (which is my current profile pic).
Sounds like a lot of fun good for you. Saethyyd any pics ?
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"this is what jehovah of armies has said...."it will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold ,yes they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a jew saying:"we will go with you people,for we have heard that god is with you people ".. this was a scripture that was presented to me, that i was fullfilling bible prophecy , when i first became interested in jw`s and of course all other studies,baptisms that were occuring at that time .and the clincher of course was,.
isa.60:22 the little one himself will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.i myself jehovah,shall speed it up in it`s own time .. and i`m talking now about the early 1960`s.
Has anything changed in the last 4 years .?
my thought bubble in the 1980s:.
"how can i engage with worldly people when they are just not interested in discussing these important topics as featured in the watchtower and awake?.
my thought bubble in the 2010s:.
My thought bubble in the late 1980`s
The revelation book says the cedar point Ohio Convention was prophesied in the Bible book of revelation ?
My thought bubble now as an old fart.
I didnt believe it then and I sure as hell dont believe it now. What arrogance of them to say and print that.
i'm taking a university astronomy course, and i must say it's really fun to read about this field.
anyway, i remember the jws used to use jupiter (and probably still do) as an example for how unique and special our solar system is (and thus designed) -- namely, that jupiter protects the earth from astroids, comets, and meteors.
convincing if one doesn't know any better, especially circa 1994 when jupiter stepped in front of a comet for us... but this isn't the full story!
A fascinating thread thanks guys.Astronomy is a fascinating subject the more we learn the more questions arise.
loyalty—part of the new personality (s-341a-18-e 5/17).
note to the circuit overseer:.
use this outline for the tuesday service talk from september 2017 through february 2018. you will need to prepare your own 30-minute service talk for use after the watchtower study.
If you don't rat on your friends to the elders if they do something the WT says is wrong you're not loyal to Jehovah.
That was me Brokeback Watchtower back in the 80`s when I was a true believer .
Two couples friends of ours were on the verge of swapping partners and I did exactly as you describe
Approach that friend, and urge him to report the matter to his parents or to the elders; tell him
that if he does not do so within a reasonable period of time, you will (Pr 27:5; w91 6/15 21)
I should have left sleeping dogs lie because 20 years later he shunned me
Yup Armageddon is coming in 5791 , the writing`s on the wall or in this case the TV screen
hello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.
this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.
the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.
On another thread the poster , yizuman points out how many times the WT flip flopped as to whether the men of Sodom & Gomorrah would be resurrected.And he lists the publications to verify it.
I think that would be a good question to ask him along with when is the "truth" the real "truth" and how can the Holy Spirit give such conflicting opposing "truths" in a matter of a few decades.?
Yes ,No,Yes,No,Yes,No,etc.?
this is my first post and i'm feeling like i'm doing something bad big time!
i know on my mind it isn't, but the feelings are less manageable.. well, since i'm still a jw it's better not to give too much info, but i'm from brazil.. i've grown-up in the religion and practicly all my family, my closest friends and my girlfriend are loyal jws.
i used to be a regular pioneer but i still have a service privilege on my congregation.. i've had questions about the teachings of the wt since i was 10, but naturally i always pushed it away as it were "questioning the holy organization".. i started a friendship with some people in a course i took and we talked about a lot of subjects.
Welcome from Australia Ray Frakz a good honest first post .Questions are welcome here the curlier the better.
i live in a pretty conservative area of the united states, and in the past two decades i can remember 2, that's right, two instances of seeing a jw with a beard in my area.
(not counting myself at times, 😜, and i'm obviously not counting bearded visitors dressed in casual clothes).. however at this year's convention, i saw about a dozen bearded jws .
this is like an explosion where i live.
Necessity is the mother of new light. Policies change because circumstances force the change.
So very true steve2
And we have examples in the following.
1914 ,when armageddon was going to happen and all the IBSA believers were going to heaven
1925 When JF Rutherford said that 1925 was more certain than 1914 that the faithfull men of old would be resurrected in that year.
Their was expectancy during the period of WW2 that the end was near.
Then of course the well documented period leading up to the year 1975 where the GB of the WT society led their faithfull to expect Armageddon would occur in that year or failing that no more than a few months later but certainly not years away.
More recently the religion was saying that Gods prophecys about the Great Tribulation and Armageddon would be fullfilled by the end of the 20th Century
And hear we are in the 21st century with none of the JW/WT predictions are even on the horizon.
Remember" Babylon The Great Gods Kingdom Rules" ? where they stated religion was in decline ? A failed prophecy.
The green book "Your Will Be done On Earth " the USSR was the king of the north
The USSR does not exist anymore and the JW`s do not know who is the king of the north
Conclusion : It doesnt seem to me like they are getting their information from a living God who knows what he is doing if they can get so many things wrong.
Maybe ,just maybe they arent being used by God/Jehovah after all.
