Posts by smiddy

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BBC News "The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families"

by snare&racket in

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bbc news website has this linked on front page.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

smiddy

Maybe all jehovahs witnesses will dismiss this article ,most of them are a lost cause anyway .Who cares ?

They bought their ticket ,they know what they are getting into,and they will suffer the consequences.

However the general public will more likely , because of this article dismiss the JW`s as a cult to be avoided .

And that is who I am most concerned about.

Their not interested in the nitty gritty of who is right and who is wrong ,dotting the I`s and crossing the T`s .

The average person ,not a JW will just dismiss the religion as another lot of fruitcakes.

And i think thats a great outcome.

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BBC News "The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families"

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

bbc news website has this linked on front page.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

smiddy

Hi Slim and others replying .I think we need to give the journalist a bit of slack here ,they are ignorant of the nuances of JW speak.

( even JW`s are LOL)

I think in both cases their were other factors that came into play for them being disfellowshiped ,such as the questioning of blood transfusions ,only 144000 going to heaven ,and also the belief that we are living in the last days and Armageddon is imminent.

Disbelieving any of these is grounds for disfellowshiping when voicing those concerns to anybody else.And any other concern they may have raised with their Elders that was not noted by the journalist.

Just saying

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BBC News "The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families"

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

bbc news website has this linked on front page.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

smiddy

The more this policy of the Jehovahs Witnesses gets advertised the better ,the general public need to be aware of what they could be getting into by joining this religion .

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Is there any humor in the bible?

by Normalfulla in

humor plays a big part in a lot of humanity and we all like a good laugh but as far as i'm aware god's supposed word has no actual humor ,of course apart from being a joke itself ,why wasn't there a passage or something like "jesus farted and giggles broke out among them " or something, is anyone aware of any notations of humor ?

all to.serious really.

smiddy

How about Samson catching 300 foxes and" to take torches and turn tail to tail and put one torch between two tails right in the middle 5 with that he set fire to the torches and sent them out into the fields of standing grain of the philistines..Thus he set on fire everything from the sheaf to standing grain and the vineyards and the olive groves".

Have Jw`s ever considered the logistics of acheiving this feat ?

But then of course is the magical "Jehovah " he can do anything !

He obviously had plenty to do and say in the first 4000 years of human history ,if you believe the JW`s when humans were more closer to Adamic perfection but alas when we humans are far more removed from the Adamic perfection for these past 2000 years he has been inactive and completely silent.

You would think that the furtherest we are from the Adamic pefection he would be giving us more reasons to have faith and believe in him with the likes of what he did in pre-christian times.?

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Brainwashing Runs Deep in my Family

by Freesoul in

i have successfully faded but my dad can't help but witness to me, so i have decided to do my research and answer him from the bible when he tries to get his point across.. so on my last visit to my parents house, he was trying to tell me that the jw's have the right religion because they go house to house, and got me to read luke chapter 10, so as he is reading it i said, isn't this interesting because in verse 7 says says don't from from house to house.. he couldn't cope with it and started saying i am taking it out of context, i replied this is what the scripture says.

even when it is written in black and white and they are the ones quoting the scriptures they still can see it.. he then said that i am unwilling to see the truth and could not talk any longer, go figure..

smiddy

The mormons go house to house the Seventh Day Adventists go house to house Baptist s go house to house as do many other religious organisations .

Its a bit pedantic to argue over who does the most D2D work ,how do JW`s think the mainstream religions such as the Roman Catholic s/ Church of England have over a Billion members by just sitting back passively waiting for the next convert to come along ?

Of course not they sent out missionaries "witnesses" among the people to gain these converts equivalent to D2D work.

And the same is true of most other religions they go out among the people and drum up memberships.

edit to add : Jehovahs Witnesses believe what they want to believe , in spite of what the facts tell them.

They also violate the scripture in Psalm 146:3 Do not put your trust in nobles Nor in the son of earthling man to whom no salvation belongs "

When they put their trust in the Jehovahs Witness leadership the Governing Body

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Meeting attendance for elders

by dkztcequ in

what is the minimum meeting attendace for someone, who is of good health, has not children doesn't work in a job that requires travel and lives about 3 miles from the kh?

is 50% for clam and 75% for watchtower acceptable?.

smiddy

OR how much money he has .

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A WTF Moment While In the WTS

by Searching in

has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

smiddy

My WTF moment came when the "Revelation" book came out dealing with the seven trumpets and linking that scripture to the 1922 Cedar Point Ohio Convention and the suceeding conventions that followed .

My initial reaction was are they serious ? This scripture has its fullfillment with conventions of JW`s starting in 1922?

I think that was the beginning of the end for me even though it took many more years for me to call it quits.

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Is there any humor in the bible?

by Normalfulla in

humor plays a big part in a lot of humanity and we all like a good laugh but as far as i'm aware god's supposed word has no actual humor ,of course apart from being a joke itself ,why wasn't there a passage or something like "jesus farted and giggles broke out among them " or something, is anyone aware of any notations of humor ?

all to.serious really.

smiddy

I think the humour lies in the amount of Bible Commentaries ,Dictionaries ,Translations ,Theological discussions , Hebrew scholars ,Greek Scholars ,Jewish Scholars ,35000+ Christian sects and denominations in the world today :

AND GOD IS MUTE. ......?

As if imperfect humans who havent got a clue needs to speak for the creator ? who obviously cant speak for himself ?

And by the way he doesnt correct any of these multiple conflicting theories/interpretations /translations etc,of anything he is supposed to have overseen in Gods word the Bible.

If thats not funny I dont know what is.

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There is no true religion.

by atomant in

l came to this conclusion based on the fact that humans are imperfect living in an imperfect world.the bible was written by imperfect human hands and is impossible to interpret with 100% accuracy.religion is man made to help control the masses..

smiddy

"Religion is the opium of the people" is still a truism today

The almighty true God is supposed to have communicated with imperfect humans for the first 4000 years and is dead silent for the past 2000 years ?

I think he has a serious problem.

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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors

by pale.emperor in

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.

the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.

the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.

smiddy

Jehovahs Witnesses know full well the dangers of rejecting blood transfusions in life threatening situations and they still go against the doctors advice to accept a blood transfusion if the doctor finds it necessary.

They find a doctor who will treat a JW patient respecting their beliefs and when things go wrong these JW`s want to and do sue the medical profession for damages .

How can anyone in their right mind have any respect for people or a religion that sues the people who bend over backwards to accomodate their beliefs.