It`s best not to know the identity of your "true" brothers & sisters lest you get caught and are interrogated/ tortured in a judicial meeting and rat on your Bros. & sisters .LOL
smiddy
i have been thinking, it is a lonely place in the real world knowing ttatt but if we have a phrase we can unite, support and help each other.
the question we will ask is:.
what's your favorite bible verse?
It`s best not to know the identity of your "true" brothers & sisters lest you get caught and are interrogated/ tortured in a judicial meeting and rat on your Bros. & sisters .LOL
smiddy
question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).
there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.
i have done the math and it works.
The Watctower writers / G.B. members / Presidents , were infatuated with numbers as were the Bible writers .
Times and dates , figure predominately in W.T. writings ever since C.T.Russell used measurements of the Pyramid in his predictions.
As pointed out by V.I, the numbers 7, 10 , 12 , 144,000 , all pointed to completeness of one sort or another , then Google how many times the number 40 is mentioned in the Bible .
Numbers / numerology , certainly did play a big part in Watchtower theology .
smiddy
i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .
rip d,b, .
smiddy .
That was very moving fiddler , you and your daughter watching Labyrinth together , bonding together .
smiddy
we've been bombarded by spam a number of times in the last few weeks and last night was the worst yet.
i already built some tools to make removing it easier because i think the longer it stays up, the more it encourages it, but still it's annoying to see and interferes with the operation of the site.
fortunately, we were able to catch and remove it relatively quickly.. i've now implemented and deployed some additional protection measures which i hope will better detect and block it from appearing in the first place.
Its the first time I have ever noticed a spam problem Simon that I can remember , and I have been here about 9 years , so you must be doing something right .
I must admit it did give me a scare , was it my pc infected ? or were you the target .
Thank you and your team , for a great site.
smiddy
me and my wife are still "in".
we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.
while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.
The Jehovah`s Witness religion , just like so many other Fundamentalist religions will just fade into the background , no they won`t disappear off the planet , however they will become very insignificant as a minor religion, and be just one of the many.
Some examples : The Assembly Of God , Christian Scientists , Christadelphians , Exclusive Brethren , etc.
smiddy
i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.
so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.
they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.
If they are truly in decline or stagnating as far as membership growth goes in western /Christian lands as been suggested on this board , then I think as indicated by these new attitudes from the G.B. they will indeed need to relax more restrictions on dress and grooming in the R&F., to attract more of the younger generation , why else would they be bringing more modern music , dance into K.H.`s which were once a definite no/no .
They need more bums on seats who will contribute much more needed cash to remain viable.
The old timers are dying off with there conservative attitudes , it`s the younger generation with a more liberal view that is the future for religious growth.
In years gone by they could afford to be more controlling of the young , but not nowadays with the widespread use of the internet they need to loosen the reigns if they want to appeal to the young , which they must do because the young are the key to their future existence.
And I think we are already seeing the beginnings of that trend.
smiddy
i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .
rip d,b, .
smiddy .
Thank you all for putting up those clips , David Bowie was introduced to me by my young son who had a fascination for him and KISS , being a good obedient JW I soon banned KISS but tolerated Bowie.Offhand I think this must have been in the 70`s , my young son is now 48 .LOL
And yes possum " Ground Control " is also one of my favourites too.
smiddy
i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .
rip d,b, .
smiddy .
watson
That clip is blocked here in Australia , damn
smiddy
the christian bible / cannon is different , depending on what religion you profess ,around the world.. russian orthodox ,greek orthodox ,christian gnostics ,roman catholics , polish national catholics ,c.of e , etc,etc,.
the very many christian bible translations that exist today differ according to different interpretations of the translators.. the jewish translators of the hebrew scriptures add a whole new concept to the traditional interpretation by christian translators of the old testament... throw in the mix all of the fundamentalist religions that have sprung up these past couple of centuries including the j.w.`s , s.d.a.`s , mormons , t.v.
evangelists , etc, etc,.
Alive
I think I know where you are coming from
, I don`t dismiss some force in the universe , even some spiritual aspect at work , however I do not accept an all knowing all powerful GOD who is controlling all things here on earth ,blessing this person or that person for such mundane things , when children are dying of starvation in so many lands.Just to name one thing.
There are many more .
And of course if such a being GOD even existed why so silent for so long,
And please don`t give me that crap about having " Faith."
Jehovah`s Witnesses have put there faith in the WTB&TS for well over 100 years and NOTHING they have ever predicted has come true , and still the faithful believe in them
How sad is that .
smiddy
the christian bible / cannon is different , depending on what religion you profess ,around the world.. russian orthodox ,greek orthodox ,christian gnostics ,roman catholics , polish national catholics ,c.of e , etc,etc,.
the very many christian bible translations that exist today differ according to different interpretations of the translators.. the jewish translators of the hebrew scriptures add a whole new concept to the traditional interpretation by christian translators of the old testament... throw in the mix all of the fundamentalist religions that have sprung up these past couple of centuries including the j.w.`s , s.d.a.`s , mormons , t.v.
evangelists , etc, etc,.
The Christian Bible / Cannon is different , depending on what Religion you profess ,around the world.
Russian Orthodox ,Greek Orthodox ,Christian Gnostics ,Roman Catholics , Polish National Catholics ,C.of E , etc,etc,
The very many Christian Bible Translations that exist today differ according to different interpretations of the translators.
The Jewish translators of the Hebrew Scriptures add a whole new concept to the traditional interpretation by Christian translators of the Old Testament..
Throw in the mix all of the fundamentalist Religions that have sprung up these past couple of Centuries including the J.W.`s , S.D.A.`s , Mormons , T.V. Evangelists , etc, etc,
Islam also has it`s roots in the Bible , along with Jews and Christians.
And that is only showing a glimpse of Christianity`s Religions ,
without mentioning the thousands of non Christian Religions that exist in the world today , all claiming a direct channel to GOD. Which number in the billions of people .
My point is this :
This has been going on for thousands and thousands of years , and there has been no GOD or HIGHER POWER that has ever tried or even attempted to set the matter straight as to what is the true Religion he/she wants people to follow , nothing , zilch.
The only explanation religious people give is "FAITH" , you must have faith , nothing concrete or solid evidence , certainly no word from GOD , yet he was supposed to communicate audibly with prophets thousands of years ago , but apparently we are too educated for a GOD to converse with us with all the technology we have available today.. maybe we will see behind the curtain .?
smiddy