You can always beat them to the punch by DA yourselves from the cult , in other words you DF them .
smiddy
i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.
we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.
we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!
You can always beat them to the punch by DA yourselves from the cult , in other words you DF them .
smiddy
i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
tor1500 ,
Welcome to the the real world , the ARC is an Inquiry into Institutional Abuse of Children by Organizations ,and as has been covered , can only recommend action be taken by the Judicial system where they see fit.
The ARC has no power to prosecute anyone itself .If they do make such a recommendation to the legal profession to investigate someone , it can take months or even years for this process to come to an end , one way or another .
The law moves at a snails pace , that`s the reality of it all .
Fisherman , how long has the Catholic Church been in , not only Australia , but the whole world , and they too are only now undergoing this scrutiny along with other organizations ,?
It`s long overdue.
smiddy
this took quite a while this evening.
so worth it though.
hope you enjoy!
More videos like this are needed Cappytan , well done I hope their are more on the way .
It`s this type of visual expose that makes the most impression on the viewer .
smiddy
after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.
the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.
wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.
Legalisms , Appeals , Loopholes , Etc.,Etc, Do not expect any decision anytime soon , this could drag on for months if not years .
Don`t hold your breath for anything like Justice soon .
smiddy
i've seen this twice now within a month.
a car group hanging out at a gas station.
one of the cult members jumps outs of their car and runs up to a "worldly" gas pumper, arm stretched out, tract in hand, and here comes the juvenile at best question.
I can never forget an Elder who was complaining about the Mormons who kept coming to his door and trying to convert him , ( they must have seen him as a potential convert ) yet he never twigged that householders viewed us in the same way.
smiddy
since the watchtowers' lawyers have (a) failed to make any recommendations to the arc that would bring the watchtower up to date with "best practices and procedures" (b) have failed to submit a proposal for victim restitution (c) have failed to secure funding for a redress scheme and (d) have completely dismissed all the arcs' findings - what's the royal commission's next course of action?.
i see two possibilities:.
) negotiate a settlement with the watchtower.
Whatever happens , it wont be anytime soon , and in the meantime , the abuse of children will continue to occur within the religion , and the Judicial system will be partly to blame for not acting promptly enough , allowing it to drag on for months or even years , by their own admission.
Part of the problem is that the ARC has no teeth , it , in itself cannot prosecute anybody , they can only make recomendations to the relevant authorities .
And they need not necessarily be acted upon.
Justice is a rare commodity in the real world .
smiddy
as i am aware a lot of posters are feeling down or grieving the certainties lost when their faith is revealed as nothing but the stories of mortal men...i am posting one of my favourite youtubers, philhellenes who, like the ancients you studied, contemplates that sense of awe that he is indeed fearfully and wonderfully made...and when faced with the inevitability of mortality he imagines the plight of the mayfly...and wonders" would it be cruel to tell an adult mayfly that it only has that afternoon to live...would it still fly as far and as high as it could?might it fly further and higher than usual?or would it forget about it's wings and sit on the water, head bowed, sufficiently traumatised to invent religion?".
we are privileged that after millennia we are some of the first life forms to know exactly how we came to be..and what we are made of ...and if that isnt miraculously awe inspiring,i don't know what is.
The J.W.`split hairs with this , one their terminology is rock-mass and Congregation , not Church as we all know .
Mat.16:18 NWT
smiddy
was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?
would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?
how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?
Jehovah never had any problem supporting the Military did he.
smiddy
i am on a pension, so i could not afford to pay for a psychologist, but my good doctor referred me to a free clinic for people on a low income, for my anxiety and depression, so i have finally got my first appointment with a psychologist since i started my fade, so where do i start trying to explain the mental trauma i feel as a fading jw?
i would appreciate your advice.
simple .
I`m certainly not qualified to give you any professional advice , hopefully someone more experienced in this field will be able to offer that kind of help for you.
My personal lay mans suggestion would be : Just be your normal self in expressing how you feel , what is troubling you , and how it makes you feel as a person.What your fears are and how this affects your marriage and relationship with your wife .
Your psychologist is just another human being like yourself , don`t be intimidated by his /her profession .Their there to help you .Just be your natural self when discussing your situation.
Sometimes just pouring out your heartfelt feelings to someone can be therapeutic for you .
I feel for you Bro.Take care and don`t stress out about your appointment.
And let us know how you are doing when you are able to .
I hope I have been of some help
smiddy
...at the tip of my tongue!.
question:.
i know we are not into end time dates anymore.however suppose you are in your.
Maybe the two prophets are buried somewhere in the 40,000 or so Christian sects that are currently operating in the world today .
Just saying.
smiddy