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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

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  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  smiddy

  I havent read all these previous posts sadly , maybe i will get around to it, however doesnt whatever they say in print such as the Watchtower or Awake magazines have any bearing on this issue ?

  Surely they have to be accountable for what they print in theses magazines .

  Theire are many inferences of Armageddon happenining in 1975

  The WT, .A creative day is 7000 years long.

  The WT, Creation of man occured in over 4000 years Bc

  The Wt said 6000 years would end in 1975 ( after readjusting those dates from the late 1800s )

  And Christ jesus rule was to be for 1000 years would be an appropiate time for him to take his reign in 1975 for his 1000 year reign

  That was the feeling back their in the 1970`s- 80`s
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  JWs Excited Trump Won

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
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  i am incredibly disturbed.

  many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!

  i'm so happy!

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  smiddy

  Thinking back on this post ,reflection on it , what is the average IQ of jehovahs Witnesses ? , they have been against higher education for God knows how long ? They have been saying the Great Tribulation /Armageddon is just around the corner for over 100 years they have made prophecys that have not eventuated such.....

  as " Millions now living Will never Die", ," What will the 1970`s bring" .".1914 the generation That will Not Pass Away"

  And the founder of IBSA/Jehovahs Witnesses Charles Taze Russell , that 1914 would be the End of the World as we know it,

  So modern day JW`s are now saying Donald Trump is their new hero to bring about mass destruction to the bulk of humanity ?

  To fullfill Jehovahs prophecys ? Are you seeing this GB ?
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  Proverbs 4:18 "light gets brighter"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we are all familiar with the classic use by the society of proverbs 4:18 about "light getting brighter".

  they say it applies to revealed truth, and doctrinal changes etc.. have you ever just read that chapter (and even the surrounding chapters) in full??.

  it has nothing to do with doctrinal changes or teachings.. it has to do with acquiring wisdom and life skills in order to live a successful life.

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  smiddy

  Maybe another way of putting it is :

  Does the Bible say what it means ?

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  Does the Bible mean what it says ?

  or then again

  Does the Bible mean what the interpreters say it means ?

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  Does the Bible say what the interpreters mean what it says ?

  Any wonder that the Bible is likened to a musical instrument , you can play any tune on.
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  I guess the latest WT killed any hope of US jws growing beards.

  by Crazyguy in

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  in my area i'd guess 30% of the men maybe more have some kind of beard.

  this craps gotta wake up somebody still in!.

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  smiddy

  I went to an assembly once sporting a well groomed beard , and I over- heard a couple of witness kids discussing my beard ,one said to the other "he must be a newly interested person "

  It wasnt long after when the pressure came to bear to shave it off.

  I havent shaved it off in the past 20+ years .

  Some people die with their boots on

  I`ll die with my beard on
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  How Long Before This Video Disappears?

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/video-jehovahs-witnesses-sale-brooklyn-move/.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jklprjx5j-i.

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  smiddy

  "Transitioning into a New World Headquarters" ? WTF ?
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  1 Step Forward and 3 Steps Back: Trying to Get My Mom to See 'The Light' (Oh the Irony!)

  by Sorry in

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  recently, my mother's been hounding me to do personal study (i think she's slowly realizing i'm becoming disillusioned with the organization and is trying to reign me back in).

  i don't know what made me do this, but i decided to test the waters by challenging 'new light'.

  she asked me what i learned in personal study, so i brought up organ transplants and the wt flip floppy stance on them (thanks jwfacts!).

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  smiddy

  Welcome to the forum Sorry , It`s not just your mom ,also your father and sister who are blindsided by JW doctrine ,I feel for you Bro, it must be hard when they bury their head in the sand and cant see reason.

  However you need to keep your sanity about all this , you cant change them with reason or logic , they have to come to this realisation in their own time,

  You can just drop little gems of "truth" now and them for them to ponder over , and I say again , you cant change them ,so dont bang your head against a wall

  Its a slow process waking someone up to the TTATT
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  New Religion where to look?

  by Alostpuppydog in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone found any religion that makes more sense than the watchtower organization?

  obviously catholics make even less sense than them so don't say that.... the reason i ask is because i still believe the bible is the word of god, but just that the jw's have twisted it for their own benefit, as most religions seem to do....

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  smiddy

  You need to do more in-depth research ,face the facts and stop beieving what you WANT to believe.
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  Election Post-Mortem

  by Simon in

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  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  smiddy

  Asassination threats against Donald trump and VP Spence because he was elected democratically by the American people ?

  Is this the greatest nation ,super power in the world today ? What message are you Americans giving to the world today ?

  Sorry , but it seems to me you are on a spiral downhill decline into a second or even a third world power because of your in fighting and not willing to work with each other for the common good of all Americans.

  Threats of assasination against a president elect ? GEEEZE whats wrong with you guys.

  Thats not the way to be a leader of the free world ?
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  10 Years on this forum!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  10 years on this forum.

  10 years.

  wow.

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  smiddy

  Good for you Steph , I hope your still around for at least another 10 years , happy anniversary .

  Take care.
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  Is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?

  by Conias in

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  is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?.

  in the event that one of the spouses is being psychologically mistreated in a very serious manner where his health is severely damaged and even his own life is in danger.

  is there a biblical basis for jehovah's witnesses for separation or divorce?.

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  smiddy

  Why have so many JW`s divorced their spouse because of one or the other no longer wanting to be known as a Jehovahs Witness , or who has now become an outspoken person against the Jehovahs Witness teachings,

  Is this just another example of the JW`s going beyond the things written in scripture ?