Thanks Jeff
,if only it was that easy to wake JW`s up out of their captivity .
one voice can be stronger than a thousand voices.
your mind is independent now.
with its own unique identity.
Thanks Jeff
,if only it was that easy to wake JW`s up out of their captivity .
i see that the uk prime monster t may is going to see the pressy of the usa whos name means 'fart' here in brit land.
i have my own views on those people, in fact authority in general.
but i ramble as we old people tend to do.. i wonder how long before jobos are saying; 'ooooh, look.
Going way back when I was" in" I loved that book "Your Will Be Done On Earth" I thought it summed up the political / millitary times we were living in down to a tee.
The book at the time seemed to describe world events as they were happening.
The king of the North the USSR ( United Soviet Socialist Republic ) not to be confused with Russia of today.
The King of the South the Anglo-American Alliance that existed back then ,the two major powers aligned together in WW2 .Again not to be confused with their situation today.
Of course it all came to nothing.
Didnt they write another Daniel prophecy book later on ? after my time how did that go ? .not to good I imagine.
I think the only way young people can get an inkling of what it was like to live in the 50`s and 60`s is to watch some movies such as "Fail safe" "The Bedford Incident" and the classic "Dr. Strangelove" and maybe "On The Beach"
In those days a number of Nations were testing Atomic Bombs And Hydrogen Bombs above ground which does not occur today.
The united Kingdom ,the USA , Russia ,and France were testing these bombs in the atomosphere.
Think of the bombs that devastated Nagasaki and Hiroshima and these were becoming more powerful with each test.
my take on this is in regard of the use of malachi 3.1-3.. “look!
i am sending my messenger, and he will clear up a way before me.
and suddenly the true lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight.
Because JW`s never check what the GB says they just accept whatever they say as gospel.They never check what they might have said previously and of course what they say now nullifys what they might have said previously.
No wonder they can get away with their re-writing their own history and no one objects or questions it.
The mind boggles at the intelligence of todays Jehovahs Witnesses in these days of the internet where you can fact check anything.
at least, that is how i see it... the article "the judge of all the earth always does what is right".
paragraph 6 & 7 .
6 consider the experience of willi diehl.
Jehovahs Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth !
They have a scripture for this alternatively they have a scripture for that .
They have a Watchtower that covers that subject only to find their is an alternative Watchtower that contradicts the previous article or vice versa.
what if fred franz had never existed?.
those of you who weren’t around in the days when he was the oracle of jwdom or who at least aren’t familiar with the deeper publications he was responsible for probably won’t be able to comprehend the significance of the question.
i believe he influenced jwdom greatly, and the whole feel of jwdom would have been different without him.. during the 60’s, 70’s, & 80’s (not sure about 50’s), he was considered to be almost superhuman by some (a lot?
Sorry ,but my question would rather be "what if C.T.Russell never existed ,I tend to think none of us would be here speculating on Freddie franz .
as some have recently posted here, there does seem to be a shift going on in their self-interpretation(s) of what happened in 1918 and 1919. if we can look past all the details that emphasize the poor thinking and poor wording (or contradictions/just plain craziness/insignificance) of their message, something bigger seems to be afoot.
they appear to be attempting to redefine the meanings for some "prophetic" scriptures in light of themselves.
1. they are trying to somehow fill the void they have themselves created from their rejecting freddie franz's (ff) type–anti-type postulations.
Your not a GB member on here JWleaks masquerading as an apostate are you? if not you should put in your application to be on the GB its the best illustration I`ve seen yet.
i still remember that feeling.
thank god it's gone for good.
i used to be part of us witnesses.
That was a good read AA thanks for posting it .
anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?
for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.
in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.
{The new light from last weeks WT is that they were not taken into captivity in "Babylon" but by the superior,secular authorities.}
Wasnt the Superior Authorities placed in their positions by God ? Shouldnt every soul be in subjection to God ? Any who oppose the the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God.? ( Jehovah )
"Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities for their is no authority except by God the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God." (Jehovah )
" those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves etc.etc. ( from Jehovah )
Rom 13:1-7
Then of course we have the scriptures that show"Satan the devil is the ruler of the world" , he is "the God of this system of things" and" the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one"
2Cor.4:4 ,1Joh.5:19
So who is it ? ,is jehovah in control of the secular authorities ? or is Satan in control of the secular authorities.?
Just who is the ruler of the world ?
this "world event" is a few years away but i'm in the field so i work everyday to prepare for it.. our technology is advancing at an exponential rate.
shit will hit the fan because of it.. even as a jw i knew this was coming.
in fact, i thought that's what the bible was talking about.
Is it just me or are we getting a lot of wierdos on this site lately is it theocratic warfare ?
i do not post ot topics on here but i think this could relate to the jw cult because i remember a brother gave a talk long time ago and he said that jehovah would never allow man or science to play with crossing genes and if humans start to do this then we need to find a new religion.
well.... here it is.. now i also want to say, if jehovah cared so much about all this human suffering then why does science seem to be the one who actually cares about fixing thing?
jehovah does nothing.
sir82 Please insert a Trump joke , Herr Gropenfuhrer ? I love it.