not wishing to hijack diest's thread i wanted to ask the above question to those who were affected.
the criminal record you received is terrible in itself, but i wanted to ask if it has affected whether or not you could get a passport.
- leslie-.
: Jimmy Carter issued a blanket pardon ...
Yes. I received one, but the pardon was conditional and was mostly to repatriate the US kids who fled to Canada to avoid the draft. As I recall, the condition was the pardon could be earned if the draft-dodger would give two years free community service.
The Justice Department told me that since I had never fled the US and had already performed the community service I was immediately entitled to the pardon.
Farkel
is there such a thing as what this article describes?.
http://www.vice.com/read/hey-atheists-just-shut-up-please.
hey atheists, just shut up please.
: Is there such a thing as what this article describes?
I've never seen it, but that is only anecdotal. I have many atheist friends, a number of them being ex-Dubs who as we all know are among the biggest crusader-types there are. None of my friends give a rat about "converting" believers, but they DO give a rat when true believers waste their time trying to convert them.
All in all, I'm still certain that are crusader/freaks in the atheist community (if there is such a thing). There are crusader freaks for everything else, you know.
Of course, this could all be turned back on me when people ask, "well, then. Why have you spent so much time and energy trying to get dubs to quit their reigion?"
My answer? "Fuck off!"
Farkel
not wishing to hijack diest's thread i wanted to ask the above question to those who were affected.
the criminal record you received is terrible in itself, but i wanted to ask if it has affected whether or not you could get a passport.
- leslie-.
No.
i think 60% think or hope it's all what it's cracked up to be and the others are just there for different reasons.. what do you think?.
:In Your Estimation What Percentage Of Witnesses Actually Believe They Have The "Truth"?
Can't say for sure, but I can say there is an inverse proportion in how much a dub believes he has the truth and the amount of working brain cells he has.
Farkel
i never cease to be amazed by the sacrifice that the wts foolishly requires.
one of the larger sacrifices is that of personal freedom that has been demanded of young men and women around the globe.
many are sent to prison for several years and have a felony on their record for life.
blondie,
: Did you refuse the CO designation.
No, but I did appeal it and they denied my appeal. I listed my "credentials" above, but ironically 2 other brothers my age were both tried with me, and they were marginal dubs at best, maybe 2 hours FS a month, never did any sort of pioneering and didn't really fit the dub mold. We were ALL given the same exact sentence! So, you see, my 3 years of pioneering (mostly to avoid being drafted) was doubly wasted.
Farkel
i never cease to be amazed by the sacrifice that the wts foolishly requires.
one of the larger sacrifices is that of personal freedom that has been demanded of young men and women around the globe.
many are sent to prison for several years and have a felony on their record for life.
blondie,
: I can say that young male jws regular pioneered more then and went to Bethel, 2 good things to get a 4-D status.
Well. I had pioneered for almost 3 years before I was drafted. There was no "lottery" then. You were just "drafted." I was also a MS, 2nd TMS Conductor, Book Study Conductor, and was a traveling speaker for public talks.
I was refused a 4-D and only received a CO (Conscientious Objector) status from my draft board.
Farkel
i never cease to be amazed by the sacrifice that the wts foolishly requires.
one of the larger sacrifices is that of personal freedom that has been demanded of young men and women around the globe.
many are sent to prison for several years and have a felony on their record for life.
: Yes, and no. I was punished not for failing to enter the military service, but for failure to submit to two years civilian alternative military service because I refused military service. Insane old Freddie said we could not accept alternative military service unless we were tried and convicted and the Judge offered us alternative military service instead of prison. That policy was dropped years later.
"Waiting on Jehovah" to change his mind about that didn't do shit for me. I was tried, convicted with a felony on my record and had to perform two years of civilian service for 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week without any compensation, gas allowance or anything else.
I was lucky compared with Terry who is only one year older than me. He did hard time. We both did our time while Freddie was sitting in his little room in Brooklyn making up new and better shit and escaping scott free from our hardships and disgraces that he SOLELY brought upon us.
Farkel
1) mine, newhart show #2 - when "bob" wakes up and and said he had a dream he was running an inn in new hampshire.
and it is suzzane pleshette next to him.
still can't get it outta my little noggin.
The final episode of JAG where Harm and Mac FINALLY do what viewers had been waiting 10 years to see.
Farkel
i don't post often, and rarely start topics.
but, i've often wondered why folks feel the need to post their departure from this board.
they're free to leave or fade, etc.
: But, I've often wondered why folks feel the need to post their departure from this board.
Um, maybe because they know they won't get DAd for doing it? Or that maybe they need to tell people they care about that they are moving on and don't want people to wonder why they left?
Why do you care, anyway? Don't you have a trash bag to take out of your house or something, or do you think this question is of such monumental importance, you need to start an entire thread about it? Or are you just trying to draw attention to yourself while knowing some people will respond and say those who announce they are moving on are just trying to draw attention to themselves. In a way, your scheme is rather clever.
Farkel
this is truly the finest and largest repository of jw related info in the world .a priceless resource ..
It would take thousands of disks to get an archive of this site.
Farkel
