Posts by lrkr

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Noah - the Movie

by Simon Morley in

went to the movie theatre over the weekend to take in jack ryan (not bad) and saw the trailer for "noah" (russell crowe and a solid cast) whats the bet the dubs will be given a rule encouraged to examine their own consciences when attending this movie.

from what i hear its fairly true to the genesis account, but hey its hollywood with cgi at their disposal.. .

my guess is they will not be allowed to go until the gb 2.0 attend a screening at loews cineplex, grab some popcorn and pop and give it their blessing..

lrkr

Does it explain how koala bears wound up in Australia and no where else on the planet?

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Warwick Blue Print!/Rutherford brochures!

by Atlantis in

when you download this file you will need to wait for about 30 seconds for all the images to come into focus.

the images should come into view in the pdf right in front of you.

if you don't wait the file could become jammed and you would need to start all over again.

lrkr

1.2 million sf complex. 100,000 sf of office space. All the rest is support: kitchen, infirmary, laundry, residence, recreation, parking, maintenance, etc, etc,etc.

From what I understand- the whole point is office space. The ineffeciency of Bethel just gets worse!

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Just out of curiosity, how many elders (current & ex) do we have here?

by mrquik in

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me.

lrkr

Raises hand.

Ex-elder, ex-bethelite,

Currently- "freedman"

(Kept the book)

Merry Christmas!

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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age

by frankiespeakin in

these guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?

i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.

lrkr

While at bethel a friend of mine was in a serious car accident and wound up in a coma. Within a few days, he was "dismissed" from Bethel so that there was no liability for the medical costs- and the state had to pay. I remember they had lawyers to make sure the medicare/medicade agencies couldnt come back after the Watchtower corporations.

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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age

by frankiespeakin in

these guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?

i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.

lrkr

I always assumed that when you leave bethel for medical reasons- they gave you some sort of landing pad. After 8 years, my wife became pregnant and we left bethel. Here is what we got:

- a letter stating that we HAD medical insurance, but that it is no longer active, and there is no COBRA provision

- a "reference letter" - the most dry, non committal letter you ever read- basically stating that you breathed and lived there for 8 years and didnt burn the place down (that they know of)

- some recommendations on how to apply for public assistance.

Thats it! Imagine if we werent young and full of energy. I shudder to think.

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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year

by lrkr in

cruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.

part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.

all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.

lrkr

@free2beme- I totally agree. The witness thing is way more important to us and currently active members than the rest of the world. They are an oddity at best. I remember revealing my past to a current friend. I was sweating and worrying he would think that I was a total idiot. He just laughed and said something like- "Is that the worst you ever did???"

Part of the freeing process is realizing that their little reality is so far from actual reality.

@SFPW- you know- you shouldnt be posting on apostate websites- it could really screw with your faith.

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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year

by lrkr in

cruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.

part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.

all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.

lrkr

The brainwashing is very strong. You can see people thinking- "there's something that just doesnt make sense here"- but then they are snapped back by the incessent droning- "You have the truth, this is the best way of life, the GB or F&DS are God's instrument, must believe, might be changes, dont be weak....." etc, etc, etc

But there are moments when you can see clarity on their faces. If only they would have the courage to ask the questions that lurk in the back of their minds.

That is the only path to freedom.

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Rebranding JW-HQ at Brooklyn Heights - full gallery (now with pictures!)

by Gorbatchov in

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see here the transformation from watchtower corporation to jw.org !.

greetings, gorby.

.

lrkr

I think its great. One look at JW.org and most people will thing- that is really shallow. And then google Jw's and get an eyefull

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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year

by lrkr in

cruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.

part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.

all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.

lrkr

Cruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train. Part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching. All of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it. "But if those brothers are all dead and these ones overlap how long is a generation....."

I dont see the change in the generation teaching going well for them. Its just too obvious what they are doing- trying to stretch out the "urgency" they have been preaching for 100 years now.

And with it being 2014- you can see the duck and cover starting. Annual text is "let your kingdom come" study articles in January are about how great it is that the Kingdom has been reigning for 100 years. Anything to avoid people saying- "Hey wait a second- when is this Armageddon thing happening anyway???"

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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)

by Apognophos in

is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?

if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.

a couple initial impressions:.

lrkr

So... it looks like they took any magic or mystery that was left in the text out. I understand the "seed of the woman" is now the offspring. To me seed is very different than offspring. (one is animate and current, the other could be potential and latent) Also eliminating all of the "came to be" removes that beautiful reference to "TO BE" in the text.

Just when you thought it couldnt get any worse than replacing "grace" with "undeserved kindness" they further castrated the poetry.

I'm an athiest- so I dont really find religious meaning- but the poetry and symbolism have been centuries in the making.