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  Evolution is a religious teaching

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i kid you not.

  page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

  "although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

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  lrkr

  I love that one of my topics made it to 2 pages. So I'll just add fuel to the fire.

  e=MC2- I don't completely understand the math behind this equation. I can't perform an experiment to prove it. But if asked, I would say that yes, I believe that e=mc2. I would even bet money on it. Is that religion? I don't think so.

  The New York Giants. I belive in them. I want them to win the SuperBowl. I believe they will. Is that religion? That I think is closer to religion. My belief in their winning is more like hope. (some would say a far fetched and improbable hope) But it is a hope based on an organization, perhaps some stats, a gut feeling, and people around me who hope the same. It is not based on statistics, experimentation or any other well-established science.
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  Evolution is a religious teaching

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i kid you not.

  page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

  "although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

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  lrkr

  See, I think that the mixing of a discussion about evolution and a Creator is wrong. They are 2 different topics. The situation is similar to Galileos fight with the church. The church insisted that because the bible says that the sun comes up- that is evidence that the divine word says that the sun moves around the earth. Quite a leap. They staked their reputation on an unclear and subjective wording. And got a little bit of a black eye over it.

  Soo... 500 years later- the Catholic Church wisely stays out of the evolution discussion. The pope has even issued statements that evolution is not inconsistant with Christianity. Newer religious sects however (pentecostals, evangelicals, and of course JWs) wander right into the mess and stake their entire belief system on 2 oddly worded, possibly allegorical chapters in Genesis- the oldest, most weakly attested book in the entire bible.

  Say what you want about the Catholic Church- but at least they learned to stay out of science. (OK- they're still a bit meddlesome in some aspects of science- archeology, contraception).

  The concept of a creator is a totally different argument from the question of evolution. One is philisophical/religious, the other is science.
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  Rotary

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any other "rotarians" out there?

  let me know your experiences.

  i just was "inducted".

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  lrkr

  How many clubs in Malawi?
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  Rotary

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any other "rotarians" out there?

  let me know your experiences.

  i just was "inducted".

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  lrkr

  still need my cheat sheet

  Is it the truth?

  Is it fair to all concerned?

  Will it build goodwill and better friendships?

  Will it be beneficial to all concerned?
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  Crisis of Conscience stolen from my local library

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i finished reading combating cult mind control a few days ago.

  i went to the local library to try to get a copy of crisis of conscience.

  i had the librarian search for it, and it's not available in any of the municipal library's branches (i live in a fairly large city).

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  lrkr

  Could be a dub checked it out and got cold feet about having it. Maybe someone lurking here??
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  Rotary

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any other "rotarians" out there?

  let me know your experiences.

  i just was "inducted".

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  lrkr

  Any other "rotarians" out there? Let me know your experiences. I just was "inducted". Nice group of people- seem to be trying to do the right things.
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  Evolution is a religious teaching

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i kid you not.

  page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

  "although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

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  Right on!!! I got everyone wound up with this thread. Now, let me try and not kill it.

  Evolution is the basis for modern medicine, modern zoology, modern biology. Living things evolve. One scientist says that evolution is a theory like 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom make water is a theory. Except that there is less proof that the 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom are water. (a rough quote- I'll get the source if challenged) Its the basis for the concept behind vaccines, its the basis for much of our understanding of ecosystems.

  A religious idea!!!???? I couldn't believe my eyes.
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  Evolution is a religious teaching

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i kid you not.

  page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

  "although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

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  I kid you not. Page 16 of 1/1/08 WT

  "Although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine."

  I had no comment but WTF!!??!! Religious?? Like calculus, gravity, relativity, geology, chemistry, etc, etc. Comments like that should wake someone up. They don't need apostates, just keep spewing that kind of nonsense and people will leave in droves. (ok probably wishful thinking)
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  New Bethel layoffs confirmed - we get our very own "special" pioneers!

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  highlights from a recent letter addressed to our boe:.

  -- a married couple is leaving bethel, assigned to serve in our congregation as special pioneers.

  -- the society will pay them $600 per month, and in addition cover their health insurance .

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  There is a lot of bitterness out there. Some have even considered lawsuits. All it will take is the right one to get pissed off enough.
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  TOUCHDOWN!!!

  by Abandoned in

  1. social
  2. physical

  yeah, that's what i'm talking about.

  donald driver is the maaaaaaan!.

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  lrkr

  Go Giants!!!