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  What is this week's book study "lesson"?

  by lrkr in

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  i've been told that its very "powerful" and been asked to attend as a personal favor to a loved one.. i might- as a personal favor- attend.. lord knows- i sat through a conservative jewish sing/reading of the torah as a favor..

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  I've been told that its very "powerful" and been asked to attend as a personal favor to a loved one.

  I might- as a personal favor- attend.

  Lord knows- I sat through a conservative Jewish sing/reading of the Torah as a favor.
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  OK which one of you knows Pete and Mary- my neighbors

  by lrkr in

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  2. friends

  we had our lovely across the street neighbors over about a month ago.

  somehow, after a little wine and margaritas, the subject got onto religions.

  they asked what religion we are (a baited question- they've watched us pile into the car 3-5 times a week wearing a suit for a few years).

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  BTW- whats up with me being "Emperor Class" with only 400 posts- I must have missed where Simon seriously lowered the standards here.
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  OK which one of you knows Pete and Mary- my neighbors

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had our lovely across the street neighbors over about a month ago.

  somehow, after a little wine and margaritas, the subject got onto religions.

  they asked what religion we are (a baited question- they've watched us pile into the car 3-5 times a week wearing a suit for a few years).

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  Making non-witness friends has not been the problem- In fact it probably was one of the things that aided in my escape. But talking about the witness experience with new friends- that was tremendously liberating.

  So- no takers yet??
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  OK which one of you knows Pete and Mary- my neighbors

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had our lovely across the street neighbors over about a month ago.

  somehow, after a little wine and margaritas, the subject got onto religions.

  they asked what religion we are (a baited question- they've watched us pile into the car 3-5 times a week wearing a suit for a few years).

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  We had our lovely across the street neighbors over about a month ago. Somehow, after a little wine and margaritas, the subject got onto religions. They asked what religion we are (a baited question- they've watched us pile into the car 3-5 times a week wearing a suit for a few years). I explained that I was raised as a Witness but am not active anymore. Sooo, turns out they are good friends of someone on this board- but I've misplaced your number- so if you could just PM me if you recognize the circumstances.

  BTW- this was kind of a big milestone for me- talking about being a "former" Witness with people who are friends but were never witnesses. Its liberating to talk about it a little. (I'm still quite embarrassed to discuss it much with too many people- and my wife is plain terrified that the gestapo will come and get me)
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  Former J.W. Now atheist?

  by Aculama in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just curious.... did the disallusionment of j.w.

  experience make you hate god or disbelieve everything about god?

  could it be god's grace that kept you from or freed you from their hold on you?

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  Nod to Done4Good- Hows it going?

  I think that the WT teaches you to be proud of being different, question orthodoxy and tradition, and at least pay lip service to intellectual curiosity. When the blinds finally fall off you have no problem applying all of those traits to all religion, and then to God, etc. It seems that many of us are athiestic or agnostic. I think part of it is that we were told all of our lives that religion was bad. We have lost the innocence of childhood and are cynical adults.

  "We are all athiests about most of the gods that humanity has believed in. Some of us just go one god further." R. Dawkins
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  Brooklyn Bethal lunch break.

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all you apostates.

  got a quick question on the lunch break at brooklyn.

  when you are working at the factory how long is lunch?

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  Now they have dining rooms in the Office complex and at the Sands building (near the Factory)- so the walk isn't what it once was (I still dont think it was a mile).

  But the other aspects are correct- clean up- put on a tie- wait for prayer- and 20 minutes to wolf down lunch.
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  Tuesday nights- freedom is great

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had a great tuesday evening- listened to live jazz sitting in a park by the (large water body near my house).

  had a bit of pino grigio.

  watched the kid play on the playground.

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  Oh- don't get me started on Saturdays. Tuesday evenings are like a little bit of fresh air. Saturday mornings to sleep in, or play baseball, or read the paper- like being born again!!! (Not that I'm into that sort of thing- being born again- not that there's anything wrong with that...)

  Its just great when you kind of forget how hectic life used to be and how better it is now.
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  An attempt at reconciliation.

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my cousin - who was also my best friend for 35 years have been involved in an email exchange in recent weeks.

  previous to that he was mostly shunning me.

  without getting into details, he had given me room to explain things, especially as to how i have 'changed' as a result of leaving.

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  Jeff- ferocious (in a good way)!!
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  How do you feel now? EVOLUTION OR CREATION??

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jws we were no doubt staunch creationists.

  but how do you feel now??

  do you still opt for creation or do you now feel evolution offers the right answer.

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  It seems to be a false alternative. Evolution is a fact. It is the basis of modern medical science, zoology, biology, etc and has been confirmed by modern discoveries from fossils to DNA to microbiology.

  Is there a creator is a wholly unrelated question. Its like the issue of the earth revolving around the sun and the issue of is the Bible true. Two separate questions. They got a bit confused about 500 years ago, but most people treat them separately nowadays.
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  Tuesday nights- freedom is great

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had a great tuesday evening- listened to live jazz sitting in a park by the (large water body near my house).

  had a bit of pino grigio.

  watched the kid play on the playground.

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  So I had a great Tuesday evening- listened to live jazz sitting in a park by the (large water body near my house). Had a bit of Pino Grigio. Watched the kid play on the playground. And thought- Wow- freedom is great.

  A year ago (well a year and a half ago) I would have been running from work to prepare a meeting part.

  Trying to convince my child that the sheer boredom he was experiencing was really absolute joy at attending the meetings.

  Giving a meeting part that required transforming a meaningless, repititous bit of drivel into something slightly interesting and spending time after the meeting shepherding/pressuring someone to do more, feel better, etc while trying to convince my wife that it was ok that I was not spending time with her.

  Freedom is awesome!!