Posts by rocky

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how does a JW explain this contradiction?

by loosie in

ezekiel 18:20. .

the soul who sins is the one who will die.

the son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.

rocky

I think something like this will be the answer of them:

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Another seeming contradiction is found by comparing Exodus 34:7 with Ezekiel 18:20. The first text states that God would bring "punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons," while the latter states that "a son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father." Why do these texts appear to be contradictory? Because they are taken out of context. Examine the surrounding material and setting. It then becomes obvious that when God mentioned punishment as coming upon not only fathers but also sons and grandsons, he was speaking of what would result to Israelites as a nation if they sinned against him and were taken into captivity. On the other hand, when mentioning that a son would not be liable for the error of his father, he was speaking of personal accountability.

Rocky

w882/1p.6DoestheBibleContradictItself?

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w882/1p.6DoestheBibleContradictItself?

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Another seeming contradiction is found by comparing Exodus 34:7 with Ezekiel 18:20. The first text states that God would bring "punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons," while the latter states that "a son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father." Why do these texts appear to be contradictory? Because they are taken out of context. Examine the surrounding material and setting. It then becomes obvious that when God mentioned punishment as coming upon not only fathers but also sons and grandsons, he was speaking of what would result to Israelites as a nation if they sinned against him and were taken into captivity. On the other hand, when mentioning that a son would not be liable for the error of his father, he was speaking of personal accountability.

Rocky

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God punishes to the 3rd and 4th Generation! How nice!

by Number1Anarchist in

5 you shall not bow down to them or worship them; for i the lord your god am a jealous god, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me!.

wtf !

so if your grandparents screw up god will punish future generations.

rocky

To begin an answer......

You are/were an ex-JW Number1Anarchist ???? If so you have also the answers... if not ok here some comes...
In psalm 147: 19-20 we see the law of Moses only was valid to the people of Israel... not for other nations...

Psalm

147:19-20) He is telling his word to Jacob, His regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. 20 He has not done that way to any other nation; And as for [his] judicial decisions, they have not known them. Praise Jah, YOU people!

Psalm

147:19-20) He is telling his word to Jacob, His regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. 20 He has not done that way to any other nation; And as for [his] judicial decisions, they have not known them. Praise Jah, YOU people!

Psalm

147:19-20) He is telling his word to Jacob, His regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. 20 He has not done that way to any other nation; And as for [his] judicial decisions, they have not known them. Praise Jah, YOU people!

For the killing.... ok ... we see that we as people are not entitled to kill someone by our own will or start a war without approval of God.... only the creator has the right to tell who should live or die.... he does also not want people to be killed but to bee saved.. but if they disobey some rules yes according to some of them they should die... NOW these laws of Moses are NOT any longer valid as a law for us now... the bible let show us that in the new testament...

So first learn what the bible really teaches before telling stupid things... learn the real meaning of it... God is not really cruel... in the first place he IS LOVE... he always has his reasons to punish people and only if necesarry... ok most here do agree WTTBS teachings are not good for them or dislike it... still most agree with some of their teachings because bible is still respected by most of them.. they still respect bible but not the organisation of WTTBS...

right?

Rocky

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2008 WT Library Question (1st JWN posting too!)

by yknot in

okay, i haven't been really paying attention to all the letters read to the congregation in the last two month.. this week it was some stupid announcement about mandarin chinese and the keep book being mp3 audio-ed on jw.org (if a publisher is computer illiterate, a cd can be ordered from the organization-but a brother who is tech savvy should offer to burn one instead of incurring cost to the slave).. then i realize i haven't heard squat about the 2008 wt library (cd or dl?)..

so i just checked my 07 wtcd and we have daily texts until the week of march 5, 2009 feb 26, 2009.. does anyone have any info on the 2008 wt library?.

is it going to be a dl or cd?.

rocky

Thanx Processor for the German 2008 version ....!! Also somone named Carlos is happy with this new release..
I already had the 2006 German version but this one is new... I had nothing to see what the meetings would look like because Our KM is not given to me as a DF person...

I wonder how to edit or delete a post here in the new look of this website ... only can post something new it looks??
Now I do still not know if I will go to another religion or try to go back to JW's ...
If i try to go back I know I will have it difficult... in the past I alr. had some demonattacts.... if I try to return I surly will get some
problems... it is also painfull and degrading for my feelings... my family tries to convert me to their religion...

Their Jesus speeks to them and helps them with healht, job(s), money and love as well... in JW thinking it is all from the devil...
or maybe they are from the devil??? Sometimes it is hard to see things correct and make a good choice..

Rocky

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2008 WT Library Question (1st JWN posting too!)

by yknot in

okay, i haven't been really paying attention to all the letters read to the congregation in the last two month.. this week it was some stupid announcement about mandarin chinese and the keep book being mp3 audio-ed on jw.org (if a publisher is computer illiterate, a cd can be ordered from the organization-but a brother who is tech savvy should offer to burn one instead of incurring cost to the slave).. then i realize i haven't heard squat about the 2008 wt library (cd or dl?)..

so i just checked my 07 wtcd and we have daily texts until the week of march 5, 2009 feb 26, 2009.. does anyone have any info on the 2008 wt library?.

is it going to be a dl or cd?.

rocky

Also the German version of 2008 is welcome for me... I understand it reasonable... almost as good as english is for me..

If you have a foreign language 2008 watchtower library pls. load it up and send me a link or post it here please... esp. DUCTH would be great...

[email protected]

Rocky

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"Adams Punnishment"

by cluless in

im confused.

assuming genesis is a true account of creation the stronger adam loved eve the less meaning life without her would have.

therefore adam chose his death over life without her.

rocky

The JW mostly learn that Adam did more love Eve then he did love God; also that Adam was a unthankful person to God...
So he did not love God or not enough ... he more loved Eve..

God made dicission that if a human being like Adam and Eve would die if they would eat of the forbidden fruit. So it was a warning and a new rule for them that would/could test their obedience/loyalty and or love to God .... it was just a simple ruel not difficult to obey it... Jesus had it much harder to obey his father wishes... it was difficult/hard to do... not for Adam ... the ruele was simple and easy to do... they had enough food in the garden.. they would not really miss the forbidden one.. if Adam did obey maybe some simpler solution would have been given to him ... maybe an other wife in stead of Eve or somthing else.. I do not know .. it surely did test also the trust in God to solve the matter if he would have obeyed it .. as he was perfect he would know exactly what was on stake and could clearly oversee the consequences of his dicission

OK I am DF and no longer a JW but somehow an answer like this would surely come from a JW... so most of you could give an answer like that and did also know this I think...

Rocky

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2008 WT Library Question (1st JWN posting too!)

by yknot in

okay, i haven't been really paying attention to all the letters read to the congregation in the last two month.. this week it was some stupid announcement about mandarin chinese and the keep book being mp3 audio-ed on jw.org (if a publisher is computer illiterate, a cd can be ordered from the organization-but a brother who is tech savvy should offer to burn one instead of incurring cost to the slave).. then i realize i haven't heard squat about the 2008 wt library (cd or dl?)..

so i just checked my 07 wtcd and we have daily texts until the week of march 5, 2009 feb 26, 2009.. does anyone have any info on the 2008 wt library?.

is it going to be a dl or cd?.

rocky

Foreign languages coming first??

I like them (foreign languages) as well esp. Dutch because I am DF and so I cannot order it in the KH....
So if some of you can load it up the 2008 version when you have it.... it would be great surprise if so..

If necesarry I can help you with the financial part of getting it... for the DUTCH2008 version!!!
So I can pay a little for it if needed... if you give it rather for free no problem at all ... I like just to get it...
If you do not want to post it here the link... you can mail it to me pls.. [email protected]

Thanks so much for helping if you do..

Rob

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