Posts by rocky

just when i thought the wash towel was done trying to interpret the book of revelations, i came across this from paragraph 16 on the last page of the march 15, 2011 watchtower.... .

the urgency of the times we live in is underscored when we consider the inspired prophecy at revelation 17:10. the seventh king, the anglo-american world power, has come into existence.

concerning it we read: when he [the seventh world power] does arrive he must remain a short while.

rocky

dpchap.10p.179par.30WhoCanStandAgainstthePrinceofPrinces?

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The Anglo-American World Power still holds its position. “But it will be without hand that he will be broken,” said the angel Gabriel. (Daniel 8:25) Very soon, this seventh world power of Bible prophecy—this “king fierce in countenance”—will be broken, not by human hands, but by superhuman power at Armageddon. (Daniel 2:44; Revelation 16:14, 16) How thrilling it is to know that the sovereignty of Jehovah God, the Prince of princes, will then be vindicated!

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rechap.35pp.253-254ExecutingBabylontheGreat

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Why

CalledanEighth

King?

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The angel further explains to John: “Andthewildbeastthatwasbutisnot,itisalsoitselfaneighthking,butspringsfromtheseven,anditgoesoffintodestruction.”(Revelation17:11) The symbolic scarlet-colored wild beast “springs from” the seven heads; that is, it is born from, or owes its existence to, those heads of the original “wild beast . . . out of the sea,” of which the scarlet-colored wild beast is an image. In what way? Well, in 1919 the Anglo-American power was the ascendant head. The previous six heads had fallen, and the position of dominant world power had passed to this dual head and was now centered in it. This seventh head, as the current representative of the line of world powers, was the moving force in establishing the League of Nations and is still the major promoter and financial support of the United Nations. Thus, in symbol, the scarlet-colored wild beast—the eighth king—“springs from” the original seven heads. Viewed in this way, the statement that it sprang from the seven harmonizes well with the earlier revelation that the wild beast with two horns like a lamb (the Anglo-American World Power, the seventh head of that original wild beast) urged the making of the image and gave it life.—Revelation 13:1, 11, 14, 15.
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Additionally, original members of the League of Nations included, along with Great Britain, governments that ruled in the seats of some of the previous heads, namely Greece, Iran (Persia), and Italy (Rome). Eventually, governments ruling the territory controlled by the previous six world powers came to be supportive members of the image of the wild beast. In this sense, too, it could be said that this scarlet-colored wild beast sprang from the seven world powers.
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Notice that the scarlet-colored wild beast “is also itself an eighth king.” Thus, the United Nations today is designed to look like a world government. At times it has even acted like one, sending armies into the field to resolve international disputes, as in Korea, the Sinai Peninsula, some African countries, and Lebanon. But it is only the image of a king. Like a religious image, it has no real influence or power apart from what is invested in it by those who brought it into existence and worship it. On occasion, this symbolic wild beast looks weak; but it has never experienced the kind of wholesale abandonment by dictator-oriented members that sent the League of Nations reeling into the abyss. (Revelation 17:8) Though holding radically different opinions in other areas, a prominent leader of the former Soviet Union in 1987 joined the popes of Rome in expressing support for the UN. He even called for “a comprehensive system of international security” based on the UN. As John soon learns, the time will come when the UN will act with considerable authority. Then it, in its turn, “goes off into destruction.”

As the UN is mentioned as the 8th king... that will (also) be destroyed... it seems there will be not a real 8th worldpower... it is only look like a 8th power... so the seventh power will be destroyed just like the king of the North (Dan 11:45)

(Daniel

11:45) And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

So NO new worldpower will come if JW tell the true thing...

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rechap.35pp.253-254ExecutingBabylontheGreat
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Why
CalledanEighth
King?
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The angel further explains to John: “Andthewildbeastthatwasbutisnot,itisalsoitselfaneighthking,butspringsfromtheseven,anditgoesoffintodestruction.”(Revelation17:11) The symbolic scarlet-colored wild beast “springs from” the seven heads; that is, it is born from, or owes its existence to, those heads of the original “wild beast . . . out of the sea,” of which the scarlet-colored wild beast is an image. In what way? Well, in 1919 the Anglo-American power was the ascendant head. The previous six heads had fallen, and the position of dominant world power had passed to this dual head and was now centered in it. This seventh head, as the current representative of the line of world powers, was the moving force in establishing the League of Nations and is still the major promoter and financial support of the United Nations. Thus, in symbol, the scarlet-colored wild beast—the eighth king—“springs from” the original seven heads. Viewed in this way, the statement that it sprang from the seven harmonizes well with the earlier revelation that the wild beast with two horns like a lamb (the Anglo-American World Power, the seventh head of that original wild beast) urged the making of the image and gave it life.—Revelation 13:1, 11, 14, 15.
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Additionally, original members of the League of Nations included, along with Great Britain, governments that ruled in the seats of some of the previous heads, namely Greece, Iran (Persia), and Italy (Rome). Eventually, governments ruling the territory controlled by the previous six world powers came to be supportive members of the image of the wild beast. In this sense, too, it could be said that this scarlet-colored wild beast sprang from the seven world powers.
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Notice that the scarlet-colored wild beast “is also itself an eighth king.” Thus, the United Nations today is designed to look like a world government. At times it has even acted like one, sending armies into the field to resolve international disputes, as in Korea, the Sinai Peninsula, some African countries, and Lebanon. But it is only the image of a king. Like a religious image, it has no real influence or power apart from what is invested in it by those who brought it into existence and worship it. On occasion, this symbolic wild beast looks weak; but it has never experienced the kind of wholesale abandonment by dictator-oriented members that sent the League of Nations reeling into the abyss. (Revelation 17:8) Though holding radically different opinions in other areas, a prominent leader of the former Soviet Union in 1987 joined the popes of Rome in expressing support for the UN. He even called for “a comprehensive system of international security” based on the UN. As John soon learns, the time will come when the UN will act with considerable authority. Then it, in its turn, “goes off into destruction.”

As the UN is mentioned as the 8th king... that will (also) be destroyed... it seems there will be not a real 8th worldpower... it is only look like a 8th power... so the seventh power will be destroyed just like the king of the North (Dan 11:45)

(Daniel

11:45) And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

So NO new worldpower will come if JW tell the true thing...

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Missing references in CD

by peacefulpete in

another thread asked regarding references that have fallen from the wt cd and i recalled an interesting example that i recognized years ago.

when the first cd came out i and an elder looked up romans 2:16 and found at least 2 articles, maybe 3, that used the passage to say that some nonjws might be saved at armagedon if they acted conscienciously and had limited knowledge of the wt message.

both were 70's awakes if i remember right.

rocky

I have an ISO of the WTL 1997 and runs on Windows xp without problem... but that is not the first version... someone has an ISO of the first version (I think 1993 it was?)???

in the 1997 version there is only one reference to an awake in 1978 ... just the same one as in the 2009 also is mentioned...

SO if someone has the data/file/ISO / rar file of the FIRST wtl... pls let me know were to d/l it and I will look if I can find out...
I also have windows 98 version and windows 95 if I need to install that old system to use the oldes WTL 93 (english) ... so pls. let me know were to d/l the 93 version... thanx