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  Billions of Lives Depend On This?

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by jehovah's witnesses.

  of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in.

  so many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.. i surely don't believe this anymore.

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  I have also been thinking about this. If the GB really wanted to reach as many people as possible they would use technology to get their message across.

  So true. I think that so much is time and money is wasted with cold-calling. By the time you spend money on gas and take the time to get to the territory, technology could've reached millions.

  *** km 11/96 p. 1 pars. 5-6 We Have a Commission ***

  The prophet Ezekiel felt an accountability to give a warning message to unfaithful Israelites. Jehovah emphatically warned him of the consequences if he failed to carry out his assignment ....Paul preached publicly and from house to house because he recognized that a failure to do so could have made him bloodguilty before God.—Acts 20:20, 26, 27.

  Do we have the zeal of Ezekiel? Do we feel impelled to preach as did Paul? Our commission is the same as theirs was. We must continue to fulfill our responsibility to warn others, in spite of their apathy, indifference, or opposition.

  I think the highlighted portion can also refer to the JWs. It seems they have their own apathy, indifference, and opposed to the preaching work.
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  Billions of Lives Depend On This?

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by jehovah's witnesses.

  of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in.

  so many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.. i surely don't believe this anymore.

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  The greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by Jehovah's Witnesses. Of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in. So many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.

  I surely don't believe this anymore. Actually, I think it's quite absurd to believe so.

  Think of the people that are bringing this so-called "good news". How many of you have observed the half-heartedness when they do this work? The slow walks down the street, the very light door knocks that can hardly be heard, the standing forever at a door when it's obvious not a soul is in the home, the coffee breaks that seem to be forever. Lives are dependent on that??

  How many actually WANT to be out knocking on doors, "saving lives"?

  There are many I know of that say they don't like doing it. One elder even said during a talk that "no one in their right mind can say they love the preaching work".

  Are these the people you want to make sure that as many lives as possible are saved by this precious "good news"??

  There are still many in my territory that haven't even heard of Jehovah's Witnesses, and by the way things are going, it looks like more and more won't be hearing the "life saving message".

  If these are the ones that God is using to warn people and bring them to safey then he needs to acquire different workers.

  R.F.
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  They will be known by their love.....--oh i am so ticked right now

  by orbison11 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i just saw a story on the news, young mom has breast/bone cancer.

  so her friends arranged a car wash to help pay for alternative treatments,,,$1k 2x a week she needed.

  oh i am so ticked.

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  The "Loving Brotherhood" among Jehovah's Witnesses is as a whole, bogus.

  Anyone can read in the Bible about what it's about to be a Christian. The WTS, however, constantly give their version of what being a Christian means. As long as you attend all the congregation meetings, go in field service, and donate your funds to the WTS, you're a true Christian.

  It's sickening how they will verbally beat down true Christians that go out of their way to show love for their fellowman. It's so bad to the point that JWs can't even see the good that others do.
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  What kinds of fading techniques have you used?

  by ldrnomo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some of you may have seen my post in jedi masters topic but if you haven't i will re-post it here:.

  i'm new to the site, my wife and i are are doing the fade we still have a son and daughter-in-law who are still in so we don't want to get hung.

  i was an elder for 25 years and was removed because i didn't agree with the gb on an important issue and spoke privately and with trust to another elder who broke that trust and told the other elders and co about my disagreement.

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  I just stopped altogether.

  I must say that i'm lucky when I think about it. I was a Full-Time Magazine Salesman Regular Pioneer and Ministerial Servant(still attached to this burden though) and I broke away with little difficulty so far.

  My circumstances at the time made it very easy to pull off though. There was the death of a very close family member, a busted long-term relationship that I got out of, and another family member being very sick..... all of that is what caused a bout of depression that I went through. I only had to go through 2 scheduled interrogations meetings with the elders. Once they realized it was depression they quickly backed off and I haven't heard from them much sinse. My own Book Study Overseer hasn't even called me in months.

  Of course, I 'm doing great now. Apparently the congregation members still think i'm depressed even though I haven't given them that impression lately. Of course they will think that since i'm "not serving Jah to the best of my abilites anymore". I don't even hear from them much either. I might hear from maybe one of them a week if even that much, and when they contact me it's like they really are uncomfortable, like they really don't know what to say.

  R.F.
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  I'm Still Receiving Teaching Assignments......That's Odd.

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm currently a ministerial servant, and i haven't been to a congregation meeting in almost 4 months.

  my father, who brings me my magazines and kms, has informed me that i have parts on the tms and service meeting coming up soon.

  what's the deal with that?.

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  Thank you all for replying, but maybe I was misunderstood just a tad.

  I'm not here complaining about a thing, i'm simply informing as to what the situation is.

  The BOE knows very well that I won't show up for these parts, and I absolutely refuse to give them, just as i've refused to go to meetings and give these assignments after all this time.

  I thought maybe others would like to know about it and....hell ..maybe move to this area and fade if they're having problems doing so in their area...i don't know.

  If my posting this appears to be a redundancy in thread topics by me then I apologize for that. If i've come off as complaining excessively then I apologize for that also.

  I was MS at the time I was privately reproved by the judicial committee, then the one of the elders on my judicial committee told me that night that he wants me still do MS duties, but I declined. I thought it was odd.

  I can't believe they had the gall to tell you that after private reproof. I would've done the same thing if I were in that situation. R.F.
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  I'm Still Receiving Teaching Assignments......That's Odd.

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm currently a ministerial servant, and i haven't been to a congregation meeting in almost 4 months.

  my father, who brings me my magazines and kms, has informed me that i have parts on the tms and service meeting coming up soon.

  what's the deal with that?.

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  Sometimes lazy elders just copy and paste names on the computer from previous months

  Perhaps that's the case. Maybe that's why those two elders were arguing one day in the back room as to how to handle the TMS.
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  I'm Still Receiving Teaching Assignments......That's Odd.

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm currently a ministerial servant, and i haven't been to a congregation meeting in almost 4 months.

  my father, who brings me my magazines and kms, has informed me that i have parts on the tms and service meeting coming up soon.

  what's the deal with that?.

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  I'm definitely not bored, and that thread was close to 2 months ago. I'm just finding it more and more odd as time goes on.

  too....

  I didn't think to bring the subject back up in that thread.

  See sweetface, I need you to make up for my...uhhh....numbmindedness.
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  I'm Still Receiving Teaching Assignments......That's Odd.

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm currently a ministerial servant, and i haven't been to a congregation meeting in almost 4 months.

  my father, who brings me my magazines and kms, has informed me that i have parts on the tms and service meeting coming up soon.

  what's the deal with that?.

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  I'm currently a Ministerial Servant, and I haven't been to a congregation meeting in almost 4 months. My father, who brings me my magazines and KMs, has informed me that I have parts on the TMS and Service Meeting coming up soon. What's the deal with that?

  I would've thought that by now they surely would've taken me off the list for this, and(or) just stop assigning them to me altogether. I just can't fathom the idea that they are so incompetent with handling this that they're still treating it as if i'm still making all the meetings and giving all of my assignments.

  The only reasons I can think of for this is so they can show the CO how irresponsible I am when it comes to my MS duties......or........they think I might "snap out" of my "spiritual lethargy" and get back to business all of a sudden.

  What gives?

  R.F.
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  Our PO just confess to one of us: He doesn't believe anymore

  by outofthebox in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  maybe we are the crazy ones!

  but, after a chat with the po of our congo, we felt a little better with the knowledge that we are not alone on the inside.

  let us explain .... today we went to the ministry as every saturday :(.

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  first off, your not out of line. i respect what you are saying, i'm just saying that it's hard for ME to believe a group of witnesses, become apostate, get vocal, have a group, and then has a p.o. confide in them. am i alone on this? if they are real, i think it's great. and i love when newbies show up. i am just questioning this.

  I agree with you BigD when it comes to portion I hightlighted. I want it to be so true but knowing JWs like we do, i'm finding it kind of hard. IF it is true, I hope they proceed with caution. It most certainly is sounding very fishy right now.
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  Our PO just confess to one of us: He doesn't believe anymore

  by outofthebox in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  maybe we are the crazy ones!

  but, after a chat with the po of our congo, we felt a little better with the knowledge that we are not alone on the inside.

  let us explain .... today we went to the ministry as every saturday :(.

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  Be careful. That's very out of the ordinary for a PO to do even if he's having his own doubts. Something smells fishy here.

  My thoughts exactly. Approach with caution.