What a waste of money. I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper I could have bought with the money they wasted on these abominations, with the intent of distributing to those in need. (Those rolls could have been purchased during the time they were building these wastes, so it would not have caused any shortages, either). Or, how many people could have had their basic expenses (including rent) paid off with the money they wasted on these soul-draining abominations.
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Construction Projects During "The Final Part of the Final Part of the Last Days"
by RULES & REGULATIONS inluke 21:11 11 and there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.. .
mr. lett: if these are true signs of the last days, why does the society continue these expensive building projects?
why not delay these projects and help all italians who have lost their jobs and are struggling financially during this pestilence?.
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Losing job todays WT
by road to nowhere inthe losing jobs and having poor health will be applied for sure in whatever meeting is held.. but i wonder if anyone will connect the middle aged man losing his job and the old and the sick with the way bethelites are treated..
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And I hope people donate precisely what they deserve. Which is nothing.
I don't care where you work, or if you work--even those with jobs that are deemed "essential" (and this includes first responders, road construction crews, supermarket and pharmacy workers, and utility crews). You are wasting money if you donate anything to any church, synagogue, or mosque. And this goes long past this crisis. I, for one, will not be donating anything to these parasites that are worse than the coronavirus they are yakking about.
And no, they do not give a f*** how you are doing. They care about getting all the energy for joke-hova so it can turn this virus thing into global communism. (And your money, so you can live a soul-destroying life of austerity.) They would rather take all your supplies for themselves than see if you need anything. (Of course, I doubt they would understand my responses if they tried that with me.)
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Venting: Nah, this isn't a CULT. we will just get dressed up and meet on video
by goingthruthemotions init's so pathetic, oh how they believe there so special.
my wife said " this shows alot when the borg stops assemblies" i said it show alot when alot of venues, governments and other religions shut down stuff.
what do i hear......crickets back.
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It is one thing to have boasting sessions online (where I can simply close my browser tab without anyone noticing if I don't like the program, and then go to some other web site). It is completely stupid, though, to dress up as if you were at the real Coronavirus Hall. That is a waste of time, you get your suits dirty for nothing, and who is impressed? Even "school clothing" is a little excessive--whatever clothing you might wear at a simple meal is good enough to waste the electricity watching these videos.
And for what? Who is going to keep tabs on them for obeying? They could have sun-worship lights going (and a few people are actually doing just that, just to break up the boredom of quarantine). They could be listening to real music, including Led Zeppelin. They could be saluting the flag. And who would know? If the hounders come in, they risk catching or spreading coronavirus. And what about the ones that stream for maybe 2 minutes, skipping the prayers and the soul-destroying excuse of "music" they play before and after, and then close the browser out? Who will take field circus reports if no one actually writes letters or places phone calls?
I predict it won't be long before they resort to underhanded means of assembling, just so they can enforce things. They want donations, they want enforced obedience. They want people wasting their time spreading the message (and coronavirus along with it) instead of watching regular YouTube videos (including apostate videos). It is easier to monitor if they have physical groups for field circus instead of having someone writing letters and spams for 2 minutes before quitting. It is precisely this subversive attitude that is why I hope the Coronavirus Halls are shut down forever.
People need to exchange goods, services, and fun. This is why it is justified to go out for these items. You gain something if you go grocery shopping, to an amusement venue or gym, or anything else that provides goods, services, and/or fun. But these things are none of the above--and I think the jokehovians are going right back to Coronavirus Halls for physical boasting sessions and field circus when they realize they cannot enforce anything with online boasting sessions.
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Oz starting to shut down
by joey jojo inaustralia has closed gyms, churches, restaurants, pubs (oh no), beaches.
most state borders are now closed.
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The one good thing about this is the churches (and Coronavirus Halls) closing down. While it would be nice to be able to eat out or enjoy a show from time to time (or an amusement park), church is a total waste of time and money. I have been getting "fun items", including Nintendo 3DS video games and the like, since I believe the effects of doing without fun is worse than any damage these items might do. (This includes items like comfort foods--I think that, while sugar and other additives can do some damage to your health, the effects of austerity is even worse). This is going to hurt people if they can't go to entertainment venues, let alone killing the economy and paving the way for global communism (I think that is a bigger threat than the disease).
But, church is no good. It is not entertainment. It is nothing more than self-inflicted communism. We are going to have mandatory communism soon enough, and I see no need to inflict it on myself any sooner. Also, I believe the harm caused by these three religious programs (and communism itself) far exceeds any good they might do. And that goes double for jokehovianism, since they waste all your time. It is a communist program, which is the worst "pandemic" possible.
I hope the churches (including the jokehovian Coronavirus Halls) remain shuttered forever while entertainment venues get back to normal. (Bars included, but since drink driving is so dangerous, I do not advocate going to bars, getting drunk, and then driving home). People need fun, but they do not need those communism emulators (or the real thing, either).
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Are the JWs are doing field service while corona?
by iliketreasure inhey guys,.
i'm out of the jws for 12 years now and stopped thinking about the whole thing a long time ago.. but recently, i wondered how jws deal with corona?
i've read on the forums that they suspended meetings and tried to hold them online.. but are they still doing field service?.
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They don't give a f***. I have heard numerous stories (probably false) where publishers have walked 20 miles/30 km each way through jungles and crocodile infested rivers, braved malaria and similar diseases, and got beaten when they got home--and yet rarely missed a boasting session. They have also had stories about Hitler banning the religion, yet the witlesses were out anyways (probably not as openly)--Hitler banned the religion because it was subverting the German people, not because of tyranny. They also rant about its being under ban in other lands, yet they keep doing it. They are more subversive when under ban, and will probably keep doing it during this.
Which is reckless. Bad enough when it's just their own (such as crocodiles). But, when they are toying with the health of the whole community by spreading coronavirus door to door, they really need to be forcibly shut down. They are going to spread this disease indiscriminately. No one knows whether the person will come down with a mild case (or one where they don't even get sick at all)--or die from it. Or, someone answers the door and infects a whole family, including a grandparent that dies from it. Is this loving, as they proclaim to be?
it was one such cult that spread it in South Korea. It was one such cult (a different branch, but the same basic core program) that got it going big in New York City, exposing the whole city to the disease along with parts of New Jersey and Connecticut. It was one such cult that got it going in Iran--again, a different branch of the same program (Judaism, Christi-SCAM-ity, and Islam each have started one major epicenter). It was yet another branch of this same program that got the disease out of control, instead of its being just a local outbreak with maybe 40 or 50 cases total (communism, the parent of all three of these programs).
Yea, just go on and continue going door to door. Let's make it run up to a billion cases, or two billion, or three. Everyone continuing field circus now is helping run up those cases faster than they can be healed. As for me, I will continue using common sense as much as possible. It might not be perfect, but at least I am not going to help make what would have been 100 cases in my city into 50,000.
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Good News About the Covid-10 and the Watchtower Bible and Truck Society! n
by 1234 inwe all know that things are all going to be way different when we get through this milestone.. like hurricane katrina, people survived this but new orleans even 16 years later is way different.
our economy is like a shark that must keep moving through the water.
stop it and it will die.. the witnesses like many people in the world, have little to no savings.
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I think they will expect people to donate using their credit cards. Go into debt to donate to this cancer. Not to mention, I wonder how many are going to attempt to continue boasting sessions and field circus as if nothing was out of the ordinary. At least when they had the Kool Aid party, it was only the cult members and not the whole community that was affected.
Going against common sense is a way of life for the jokehovians. When in a pandemic, go from door to door spreading it. Many of them are older than 60 AND have one or more other conditions making them more vulnerable to severe or critical coronavirus instead of a "Oh wow, that didn't even hurt" or "Oh wow, what are you trying to do, tickle me" case. Most of them are quite out of shape, most are sleep deprived, most have terrible diets--most are in even worse condition than someone that smokes! (Which I would not recommend doing that, either.)
Common sense dictates preparing for a time where groceries are not accessible. Whether for a quarantine, supply disruptions, or both, they are now saying a 2 week supply is mandatory (and I feel that is nowhere near enough). How many jokehovians are doing that? How many have enough food for 2 weeks? Let alone vitamins, cleaning supplies, and having contingency for a decent variety (which I am working on, thanks to product limits and stockouts on various items). You certainly cannot count on going to Walmart (and that is one of the worst places to go, at that) to get some more bread and milk at this time.
And, whatever anyone does, common sense says absolutely no donations. I mean none. Not even one lousy penny. Not cash, not checks (aside those Void Checks if you can find them online), not electronic, not gifts. No nothing. Do not attend the Coronavirus Hall, unless you are serious about wanting to get the disease and make it even worse than it already has to be. No defying the law just to go out and spread this virus through the territory. Hey, if I have even suspended buying silver until I am totally sure I won't need the money for rent and other expenses, why should they continue donating money for nothing, when they are likely to need it themselves?
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Will "social distancing" help JWs wake up.
by Tantalon inwith the existing and still to come covid19 lock downs in many countries i wonder if not being obliged to attend meetings and field service will give many jws the opportunity to clear their mind a little and start to see the cracks.
i know they will be expected to log on to their devices but with no one other than family to monitor this it could be a circuit breaker for many.
of course the fear of end times pestilence may counter that.
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Regular weekly congregation boasting sessions? I suppose field circus is also required, even if they pretend to suspend it. Great way to spread coronavirus through the whole territory.
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Invading our homes
by road to nowhere inthey want our zoom cameras on with them in control, and extra " encouragemrnt" to be broadcast each day.
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All you need is an "Internet blackout". Just when they are starting to watch you, simply disconnect the cable or turn off the router that provides your Internet. Another way around this is to navigate away from the page and visit another page. Or, you can shine a nice bright light directly into the camera (enough to wash out the whole picture). And, what happens if the camera is disconnected, de-activated, or obstructed?
Unfortunately, Mercury is direct and will remain direct until June 18, so that will not be an excuse.
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Last night's local needs
by Fadeaway1962 inthe memorial each family to have wine and unleavened bread to pass around (isolated bro who's a recovering alcoholic).
limit watching the news regarding the virus look on jw.org and the gb will keep us informed (they know better than medical professionals).
ministry suspended but use any opportunity to speak to people and give them a jw.org card(the virus still active on card).
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Look for the jokehovian site for advice? I didn't listen to that rubbish, but I looked for those videos and blatantly Satanic sources. Therein, they have been saying now that we should prepare for a 6 month period of lockdown, shortages, or a combination of both starting (in America) in April. I have been gradually increasing my stockpile, with that as a goal (I estimate I am around halfway there now).
Never mind 6 months. The newspapers have been advocating a 2-week prep. I feel that will be woefully inadequate, but it is better than nothing. That means at least 42 meals' worth of food, plus whatever paper and cleaning supplies you reasonably expect to need. (And no, I do not advocate getting 50,000 rolls of toilet paper or 18,000 bottles of hand sanitizer to sell on eBay). As a rough guide, you will need at least 2,000 Calories per day (unless you are unusually active or petite). For the 2-week prep, you are looking at around 30,000 total Calories.
To put this in perspective, you can get this with a few trips to the store. Cereal, cold or hot, usually means 4-5 standard size boxes (and no, I do not go by those 1 ounce standard serving sizes). You will also need 12-15 cans of vegetables and/or fruits, 5 pounds of rice and/or pasta, legumes (several 1 pound bags), a couple jars of peanut butter and a jar or two of whatever jam you prefer, bread or crackers (tortilla wraps will do fine), and at least 6 (5 ounce) cans of meat or seafood (this is so you can have meat 3 times per week). If you have family, you will need to adjust accordingly because additional people also need food.
Now, if this is what the news is telling people to get for preps, what are the jokehovians doing? Yes, this means planning ahead (and I do recommend various spices and condiments in addition, since rice, pasta, and legumes without added sauces and spices can get boring). But, does the washtowel even advise anyone to do this? Or are they advocating trusting in joke-hova and donating all their money to those leeches at the top and donating all their time in Coronavirus Service instead of going to the store to get some of those items?
Or, are the jokehovians going to be instantly up s*** creek without a paddle as soon as their state or city enters full lockdown or all the stores completely stop operating? How many of them have as much as an extra can of soup, an extra jar of peanut butter, or a box of crackers? I wonder if the hounders are going to round up all the food they can from the congregation and distribute it (along with their coronavirus) through the congregation.
If you haven't already done so, now is the time (and getting quite late) to start. You might be lucky enough to find toilet paper--you will need to slowly stockpile it because of strict limits on how much you can get. As for food, you are wise to count calories in the store. This time, those calories are your friend, not the enemy (unless, that is, you are like double or triple your ideal weight). You are looking for a minimum of 2,000 calories per day for the basic situation (this will vary, especially if you are bulkier or smaller than normal). Protein grams also count--unless they are soy protein (which is bad). You will want at least 40 grams per day--for more active people, such as those stocking groceries, 70 is more appropriate.
Are you hearing any of this from the washtowel? And remember, this is the lamestream media. The more Satanic sources have been pushing for a 6 month supply, and have been pushing for this since the end of January. And no, I have been planning ahead for fun, not austerity. Cookies, crackers, and spices are included because I want this to be more than austerity.
Those trusting in joke-hova may think that thing will help them. But, I do not want to hear it from them in the middle of August or September telling me that they need whatever supplies I might still have. (Or in May, for that matter.) All they are getting from me is a lecture (in German) that they should have listened to, if not Satan Himself, at least the main news.
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2020 Memorial - No Need To Actually Have The Emblems
by pale.emperor inover at jw talk they're saying because they're having to hold the upcoming memorial at home, they dont need to actually have the emblems.
apparently, listening to or watching the talk is the thing that counts.. "do this in rememberence of me" apparently means watching tony morris on your phone give a talk.. this begs the question... "what's the point?
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There is no need to have it at all. Never mind wasting 45 minutes of time listening to a boring talk, wasting the electricity and data streaming it, and especially if you still have to attend the Coronavirus Hall to hear that boring talk. Emblems or none, it is still a complete waste. (Plus, if you have to go to the Coronavirus Hall, you risk getting coronavirus for nothing.)