the greatest work of all time, never to be repeated, is supposedly done by jehovah's witnesses.
of course you know i'm referring to the door to door work they take part in.
so many lives are at stake and your life is dependent on if you "accept the good news" that they preach.. i surely don't believe this anymore.
And therein lies the root of the problem. God did not get "this group" and so the preaching work is null and void, just a total waste of time. They took it on themselves to declare that they were God's special people, but their record says otherwise.
I personally think that God did use the WTS at one time, but not anymore, not for decades, as I believe it has been judged and rejected as unfit. I think God has let them to themselves.
the book study is one of the most useless meetings.
the same books have been studied 3 or 4 times.the meeting takes only an hour but takes up most of your evening.
and, it is one of the least attended meetings.. why haven't they combined the watchtower study with just question and answer and then follow with the book study with just question and answer?
Had a part in the August KM about the importance of the BS, and who it helps us to get close to one another, its more intimate, and the BSO gets to know the spiritual health of the flock, he can work along with them and help them in the FS, *which is crap, never once has he offered to help me.*
Also they have everyones phone, email or mobile number in case of emergancies, or natural catastophies, that is good and can be practical especially if you are old, ill disabled and are on youre own.
So I can't see that they would get rid of the BS group. I actually don't mind it, as I sneak some little beuts in sometimes, always using the insight book though huh.
I think they should cut of at least 1/2 hr of the TMS, it really is a burden especially on those that have to work and families with young kids, we don't get home until 10 o'clock at night, and ones that are old and disabled it really is a nuicence, cant see any need to see demonstrations of offering the WT at the doors, they already have the sugestions on the back of the KM anyways. The bible reading and maybe a bible disgussion and info for our local territory thats it.
hi.. just wondering what it was that first made you realise that jws didnt have the absolute "truth"?
was there a specific event/turning point for you or was it a moment of enlightenment?.
chukky.
but most of all the lack of love
This was it for me...every thing else was just a reasurrance.
The Christ like personality was not there.
wt- july 15, 2007 study article page 18 par.
"yes, judas felt remorse after the betrayal, but he never repented of his deliberate sin.
consequently, judas is not worthy of a resurrection.. wow!
Thank you Fres, I forgot he hung himself, and then went splat due to a technical glitch. However are you joking, or FDS mind reader of the dead too? How can you you say "he obviously thought there would be no forgivness?"
I say that because I got the impression he was so distraught for what he did, that he may have thought their was no hope for him. Maybe I should not have said obviously, for me that is how it seemed AND I never go that idea from a WT publication.
Lots of people kill themselves for many different reasons. What if he could just not bear to face the other apostles, was truly sick at heart, had asked for forgivness, and decided he not live with the guilt? Lots of people kill someone close to them, and then kill themselves just due to guilt
Well not lots of people betray the son of God, he made a choice, and knowing who Jesus was, it didnt' seem out of ignorance did it?
I used the excuse of depression as a side issue, as ultimately my point is only Jehovah knows if he was repentant. But once his conscience hit him especially when the soldiers came to take Jesus away, it fulfilled bible prophecy, so Judas would have know that. It gives an important lesson also as does all of Jesus parables and stories. Judas betrayed Jesus for money, but he was in control of the money box well before this happened, so it is unlikely that this was a one out insident, he may have been steeling from the money box well before this, so it was a gradual thing. Something in that for all of us, we don't just wake up overnight and say I'm leaving or I'm doing this or that, it happens gradually.
when i was married to his daughter, he was always thoughtful and kind.
i'm not one to ever want to borrow money, but there were a couple of times that i just had to.
he willingly loaned me money - which i repaid, with interest.
Must be hard for you, being out of the family so to speak. but you both had a good relationship and that in itself is something to be grateful for.
Hope you will be ok and that you will saver the funeral and think of all the goodness that came out of youre knowing him and him you.
all the best.
why settle for a two meter high pyramid cemetery monument when you can have one a couple of hundred times taller?
see: http://www.thegreatpyramid.org/ .
chuckie might not have wanted to share his space, though.
Freeemasonry was very popular and common in his day, as was the Darwin theory of evolution, many freemasons around but few that reached the 331/3 degree masonry. I wouldn't add to much importance on that, he was something before he became a JW, or a believer of The Way, big deal.
ok, slowly awakening and fading at the same time for two years now, and did not plan it.
i tell my wife last night i have been having some interesting e-mails with my dad about the qb from the sept km we are to study this week.
she says she has read it, but does not remember it.
Yes I guess sometimes it is not time to bring certain things up, even when it is a whammy like the Sept KM. You have a lot to contend with. I think having to excerise patience is about all we can do in a situtation like this. Hopefully some little thing you have said will help her think, like they say we should plant little seeds in the ministry, well take a leaf out of their book and keep planting little seeds of truth to her.
as i posted in a previous thread, we moved about 5 weeks ago into a house next door to a local elders family (who also happen to be related to us through marriage).. the elders wife (i'll call her mrs m), decided to weed her garden when we went out this morning.
but we were only gone for 20 minutes.
to weed a part of her garden, she has to come into our front yard to reach it, which she was doing when we came home.
I think that is sad and funny at the same time. Perhaps you could take a jug of coffee with the morning text to start the day of, just being neighbourly and all. That would be so funny.
luke 6:29-30 (new international version) 29if someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also.
if someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic.
30give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back.. so to all the christians out there, how many of you follow this?.
Good one. I wonder what the GB would say if I ask theme to give me everything they have, they are the brothers of Jesus, right? So they are supposed to follow his teachings.
The GB don't have anything that is not given them by donations from the r/f, the r/f give to Jehovah, so the GB must think they are Jehovah to take what they need out of donations to support themselves. Now they do offer a service, similar to the politicians, they are providing a service, so the GB are imployed by the r/f.
The money they get from donations should be accountable for in monthly statements, or three monthly statements. Where is the money going to, has any of our money been paid to victims of child abuse, we should be informed.
The GB are employed by the b/s, we feed them, we cloth them, they don't work and we want to know what they do with our money.
some of you may have seen my post in jedi masters topic but if you haven't i will re-post it here:.
i'm new to the site, my wife and i are are doing the fade we still have a son and daughter-in-law who are still in so we don't want to get hung.
i was an elder for 25 years and was removed because i didn't agree with the gb on an important issue and spoke privately and with trust to another elder who broke that trust and told the other elders and co about my disagreement.
I think what you did was really Christian, you found time to give of youreselves to the brothers. I will always maintain that family, those in need and friends come before preaching, as the scriptures say what good is a sacrifice (field service) if youre brother is in need.
I think this is the biggest problem within the org, lack of genuine love, and more concentating on preaching rather than helping our b/s in practical ways. The more we give of ourselves to others the more we give to God, and thats not talking about filling in a report for hours in field sevice, that's just something elders can say how spiritual we are by the hours in field service we report. Genuine love is in loving one another and helping one another.
