I feel your pain! Weve been in the midst of a heat and humidity wave lately too with temps in the 90's and humidity up in the 80% plus range. Its the humidity that kills me I hate that sticky, icky cant breath feeling . And my glasses fog up everytime I step outside . We have no ac on the second floor either so when the heat/humidity gets too bad we have to crash on the floor and couch in the living room where its cooler. Tonight we seem to have a break in the humidity and tomorrow is supposed to be 94 with only 60% humidity..looking forward to the break from the sticky icky.
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45It's too hot!
by talesin inoh ... my .... gawd!
it's been over 100 the past two days, and i can't take it anymore!
i know y'all from texas are used to it, but i'm not!
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What did shunning do to you?
by hillary_step inthere can be little doubt that the wts 'shunning' policy is a dangerous weapon.
each year tens of thousands of people are disfellowshipped, and experience the reality of being shunned.
many of them still believing the wts doctrine that if they die in this condition they will shortly be executed by god at har-meggedon and die an eternal and disgraceful death some leaving the faith altogether.
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flower
my emotional breakdown due to my dfing and shunning culminated in my brief visit to the local psychiatric hospital
but its true what they say, what doesnt kill ya makes you stronger..and in this case much happier.
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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flower
I never once said that all Jehovah's Witnesses are "evil, child abuse supporter[s]" -- please don't put words in my cyber-mouth -- but their blind trust in what they think is Jehovah's organization makes them gullible about those who ARE evil child abusers.
I don't see why you would find this line of reasoning disheartening, Flower. Seems like good common sense to me. I'd like to keep my children safe until adulthood, to the best of my ability.
Nina
If you check back you'll find that I didnt quote you as saying anything in my previous post. The typed word can be so easily misinterpreted. It was simply a descriptive term used to describe someone who would intentionally sit back and do nothing knowing a child was being abused. I was not attributing those words to you.
Anyway...I know where your coming from. Keeping our kids safe is everyones ultimate goal. I guess its a little frustrating for me to hear things said about the JW's that give off the impression that the average rank and file dub is someone who would turn a blind eye to a child being harmed sexually and therefore cant be trusted around children. I know thats not what you meant exactly...sorry :)
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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flower
If a family member wanted to spend time with my daughter and they happened to be catholic it really wouldn't bother me, aslong as that family member was willing to be pleasant with me.
Ellie, see I dont personally see much difference between a JW and other religious nuts. I have been around some non jw christians who are just as militant in their resolve to teach kids religoius dogma..that god will punish them if they dont listen or that people who are bad go to hell and burn forever or that Armaggedon and the end of the world is coming... I hear this kind of stuff almost every week from non jw's. Not the kind of people I particularly want my son to hang around either to fill his head with such bs. But rather than trying to keep my kid away from every fundie in the world I decided to just prepare him mentally and emotionally to face these kind of people. I try to teach him to respect their right to believe anything they want, but not their right to try to make him believe it. I tell him now that if someone wants to tell you what they believe but doesnt want to also listen to what you believe then simply tell them you dont want to talk about beliefs anymore..and mean it. That goes not just for JW family he may spend time with but for classmates or teachers or anyone else. Nina, its just your specific reasoning with regards to JW's no associating w/your kids is disheartening. I was a jw for what..25 years basically, and I never knew anything about other child abuse situations..actually I could never have imagined it happening on a large scale and I would have denied it with a passion to anyone who tried to make up such bullshit. Thats not because I was an evil, child abuse supporter, but because I believed that the org was gods earthly organization and that anything they said was said with gods holy spirit behind it. If they said apostates were making these things up then apostates were making these things up. Brainwashing at its best. Now if I saw or had direct knowledge of a child getting sexually abused I would know that it was true and would not have stood by idlely while it happened and I dont believe most of the R & F witnesses would ever stand by for it either.
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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just out of curiosity, would you allow them to associate with catholics?
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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I think in our anger at how the JW's treat people who leave the cult we sometimes forget that, although their actions are the epitome of cruelness, they are brainwashed and truly believe that what they are doing is somehow for the good of the person they are shunning.
Most of them, in my experience, do not shun and treat their family like they dont exist just to be mean and hateful. They just have been warped and no longer understand the concept of love.
Even though we feel angry about the situation I think directing that anger at a brainwashed cult member who thinks they are doing what Gods requires of them instead of directing that anger towards its leadership is misguided.
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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They WILL start telling your child you are bad or naughty for not being Jehovahs friend and not going to the meetings. They WILL tell her that you will die if you dont go
Is that what you want your child to hear ???
My sister tells her son ALL the time that Jehovah will kill his daddy if he doesnt go back to the meeting (he was DFs )
Just because one JW does something does not mean they will all do it. That is coloring the entire group of people with one brush and we all know they arent all the exact same in their actions all the time otherwise none of us would be out.
Teaching our children that they cant be around family members because their beliefs are different than ours is no different than what the witnesses are doing! I dont think we should try to predict what this posters family is definately going to do before they even do it. If we start judging people before they even do anything simply by their religious beliefs they are no different.
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If you do something contrary to what the bible teaches, how do you react?
by JH inso many verses in the bible are so clear.
example: don't steal, don't fornicate, don't have sex with a person of the same sex....etc.
some verses couldn't be clearer.
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flower
I dont take the 'rules' in the bible any more serious than I do the rules of any other book. I take what I want to use and leave the rest. I daily do things that contradict what others believe to be right or wrong. I don't really care what others think whether they be imaginary supreme rulers of the universe who wont let me live in their imaginary kingdom of heaven or other people who try to project their own guilt and misery in trying to live up to their own moral code onto me. As someone else said I only have to be true to myself.
"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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flower
imo, if mom and/or dad at home are doing their job then protecting their kids against possible indoctrination of jw beleifs from other family members or strangers is no different than protecting them against any other of lifes dangers.
we already know how the jw mind works, we know their tactics, we know everything about them inside and out. I personally feel I have the advantage and there is nothing they could do to 'convert' my child because he living with me is protection enough for him. the one time they tried to convince him of some basic jw belief it turned out to prove me right because he challenged them with common sense questions which they were unable to respond to.
i think protecting my child from a cult whether jw or other is just another challenge in parenting. the only difference is i have the advantage since i know all about the jws that is a challenge i am more than confident i can face. i'm more concerned about my kid falling prey to something else in life something which i dont know about and may not be able to protect him against.
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would you let your child associate with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Ellie in.
i'm the only one of my family who is not in 'the truth', and my family don't want anything to do with me.. however, today my mum asked me if she can take my 2 year old to visit the rest of the family, i'm not invited and wouldn't be welcome at any of their houses, so she would be taking my daughter alone.. i told her i would think about it.. i really don't think it would be practical because my daughter is not familiar with the family and i don't want her to be upset.. but the main reason |'m thinking of saying no is that i feel offended that i am not good enough for them to speak to.. am i being selfish if i say no?
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flower
I dont think anything in life is really that simple. I used to think use that simple Black and White thinking too.....when i was a jw.