the societys stance on birthdays is either blatantly a lie, or a lack of bible knowledge on the part of the governing body!
while still attending at the kingdom hall i read job 1:4 where jobs childreneach had celebrations in his own day.
then read in job after his kids died and all his possession were lost where job cursed his own day.
1:4 And his sonswentand feasted+__in their housesevery onehis dayand sentand calledfor their threesistersto eatand to drink with them
3:1 Afterthis openedJobhis mouthand cursedhis day
3:3 Let the dayperishwherein I was bornand the nightin which it was saidThere is a man childconceived
the same word is in the original scriptures for his day:iumu
it is so obvious.."sorry WT expression".
jw1983 - jws are not false prophets .
jehovahs witnesses, in their eagerness for jesus second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect.
because of this, some have called them false prophets.
"Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly. . . . It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years."
--Watchtower 8/15/1968, p.499
according to them : Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light, growing brighter and brighteruntil full day.
OK it is as simple as this:
before sunrise you see on hill something like a Cube....more light...its a house....more light.. it has six windows...more light ....windows are blue...etc.
they see a cube.. more light...no its a pyramid...more light...it is a cube with three red windows...more light..it is a pyramid with ten blue windows...does this make sense?
when the light is brighter you see the same thing onle clearer, not a completely different thing.
a coworker and friend whose family are jw went to the district convention with his jw wife and kids.. he said that about the only thing he got out of friday's session was this hilarious statement in the title.. here's the story-.
the speaker says, .
"why should we trust the faithful and discreet slave?.
HEY who said they are not faithful and discreet?
who denies jesus?
who promote Hatred and Fear and Death?
who hates the Cross and all Religions?
who rejects Charity?
who ? ...etc..
THEY ARE SATAN'S FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE
matthew 7:15-20. be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheeps covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.
never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?
likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.
VERY impressive thread,
thanx for all the info,
I just wanted to add:
1- The ONLY possitive thing about them is making me look deeper into Christianity and read the bible and study all aspects and interpretations from different sources,which also applies to others.
2- The fruits: its the first thing they try to show,which is fake,as if grapes or figs are glued ( with Super Glue) to a dead tree, the good tree bears fruit with no effort if it is planted on good soil and well irrigated,God makes it grow and bare fruits.
i was able to watch some of the convention for 2007 on youtube and they look boring.
do they just have three days of different programs or do they just repeat the same program friday, sat & sun?.
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the same spiritual food, no deserts, zombies nodding thei heads, praise yah, elder FBI agents pop up over your head when you least expected, and of coure Jesus is not invited.
is it because many believe that jesus christ / god / holy spirit are all one being, and after jesus christ was born they stopped using god's name and put all focus on jesus?
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this is interesting:
is it because many believe that jesus christ / god / holy spirit are all one being, and after jesus christ was born they stopped using god's name and put all focus on jesus?
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Thanks for the info guys.
is it because many believe that jesus christ / god / holy spirit are all one being, and after jesus christ was born they stopped using god's name and put all focus on jesus?
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jwfacts: I was discussing this with a JW yesterday,they insist that it was in the new testament,is there a solid argument or website on this?
hello again people,.
i never miss any thread on your board,at least 2 hours daily here, i thought i had to say this before moving to my idea,.
i am thinking as a producer-director to produce a talk show - live mainly to the purpose of exposing wtb$ here in the holy land, we are achristian comunity of 50000 from all dominations and also we have been infected by jws they are mainly in small congregation in bethlehem,ramalla and jerusalem, which the tv station covers perfectly http://www.almahedtv.org.ps/ and through palestine productions"me".
Hello again people,
I never miss any thread on your board,at least 2 hours daily here, i thought I had to say this before moving to my idea,
I am thinking as a Producer-Director to produce a talk show - live mainly to the purpose of exposing wtb$ here in the holy land, we are achristian comunity of 50000 from all dominations and also we have been infected by JWs they are mainly in small congregation in Bethlehem,Ramalla and Jerusalem, which the TV station covers perfectly http://www.almahedtv.org.ps/ and through Palestine Productions"me"
I already have three priests all with P.H.D to participate in this weekly program, one is Catholic, a Lutheran and Greek Orthodox.
Could anyone direct me to how can I get small funds for this?
please email me at [email protected]
hey guys,.
i really admire your work, which in a way guided me to the real truth,.
here is my story,.
Thank you all,
Real support, thats what I can feel, and loving people on this board, I myself would also like to share my experience and research,
I checked the 6 screens and other sites like escape and jwfiles and I have many materials, the problem when reasoning with them is that they keep their minds closed and limited to what the GB tells them. Their main argument commenting Peter "to whom shall we go?" what is the alternative, they are good people, I know but they are deceived in living in an isolated mind state and outside the wall is frightening for them,and also I noticed that most of them came to the "truth" at a time of vulnerability or after a very hard psychological trauma, so its a way of escaping reality, and it works for them.
Thank you all again for your concern.
