the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
akjeff said
"Neither wrote personal histories. Socrates was explained by Plato [and others] - probably explaining himself through Socrates? Jesus was explained by his followers - likely grandiose embellishment that created a legend that never was."
too true
Plato's Socrates at least is a blend of fact and fiction. Both Jesus and Socrates are larger than life figures - but somehow they are believable imo.
the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
believingxjw and tec
yes it was pilate who asked "what is truth?"
sorry about the confusion.
What I meant to say is that Socrates questioned what truth was as did Pilate. Did Jesus ever explain what truth actually is?
the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
Xenophones too. However many who stood against the establishment and against public opnion took the option of going into exile. Jesus and Socrates were different in that they remained and became martyrs. Is this a loss or a gain or something incalculable?
recently, there was a very nice thread in which one of our posters apologized for having the temerity to challenge barbara anderson.. i thought it was very nice to see that they made up and put the personal stuff aside.. however, i felt the need to call it like i really feel it - i was very put off by the barbara anderson reply in which she plugged her new promotional meeting.
it brought back memories of that horrid little affair from a couple of years back when she kept posting up "the greatest new thing about blood which will bring down the watchtower society is just around the corner -- and i could tell you but then i would have to kill you, etc."..
just like another jehovah's witnesses prophecy about the coming of the lord in our time.. i am beginning to wonder if perhaps the siren song of self-promotion is getting a little too strong for real life.. ok. i said it.. james - and saying it was not the easiest thing that i have ever done.
scott
jwoods has been here for a lot longer than you think, approx five years. I think he is a very nice person but was being quite cynical in this particular thread in my opinion. He has since apologised and I'm sure his mind is now at rest regarding barbara anderson.
ql
the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
gladiator you said
"Jesus Christ and Socrates...they were both pioneers in the true sense of the word."
I agree. And yet both were sentenced to death. Can we say that in both cases popular opinion turned against them and the authorities then found it necessary to bring them to trial? or was it the other way round - the authorities did not like their subversive activities and influenced the crowd against them?
the differences and similarities.
is anyone interested in this subject?
socrates was not an atheist (but i still think he laid the groundwork for it).
the differences and similarities. Is anyone interested in this subject? Socrates was not an atheist (But I still think he laid the groundwork for it).
Here is one similarity and difference. Both emphasized a search for truth. Jesus said "I am the truth" but to Pilate he is said "what is truth". Why was this? To me the answer highlights an important difference between Plato's Socrates and the bible's Jesus Christ but I need you guys to help me give birth to it
Whatever thinking you lean towards - Atheism, christianity, agnosticism, mysticism - welcome - I'd be interested in your thoughts.
edit: I didn't mean to put this under watchtower society - but now that it is done, it really is very relevant to the wts.
i'm quite interested in this subject at the moment.
i was reading that in some cultures when the stories, myths and traditions began to be written down the stories etc underwent transformations as they were now accessible for critique and for moral judgements to be added.. i'd like to hear your thoughts leo and anyone else who has anything to share/discuss.
ql.
Hi Leo
"What I wrote last year was with respect to the other extreme view, that the Pentateuch was written in the Late Bronze Age by Moses (whenever one dates the exodus). "
(boxes don't seem to work for me anymore).
Leo would you please direct me to a link of the above discussion if you can remember where it was.
thanks
ql
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