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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

Caliber ironically resorted to using ammunition with BB-gun-sized caliber by citing the lyrics of Garth Brooks: can you come up with anything slightly better, or does BB-gun-sized ammunition possess sufficient 'stopping power' to completely stop all critical thoughts in their tracks inside your head, too? ~~ adamah

Pump Action BB Shot Gun

You actually gave me my first hardy laugh of the day but don't

get too near my" Red and Chrome Pump Action BB ShotGun" , it mighty be more nasty than you first may think hahahahahaha!

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqZjgIfxe0

Were his prayers unanswered or was it answered in one of these ways ?

1) No, I love you too much

2) yes ,but quite different from how you thought I would answer

3) Yes, but you'll have to wait

For God to hear our prayers must he always say yes by delivery today ?

Immediate answers to prayer. You want them. I want them. But God simply does not always work that way. And to get His best, we must be patient. In some cases, we must wait until 11:59 for His answer to come.

Sometimes God's greatest gifts are prayers to be answered in the future by future blessings... good things come to those that wait (even if it is in death)

"I guess the Lord knows what he's doing after all"

Any christian who does any of these things has destroyed all of your arguments over the last few pages. They believe that god intervenes daily and hourly in their lives and in the lives of millions of other christians.

Daily may we pray for strength , endurance and faith so not lose our joy and conviction of God's assured blessings

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

We are not pawns in god's great pissing contest with Satan. Our lives and happiness in this life really matters.

"Well God why can't you fix this , prevent that ?" The great issue must come to a head . I guess it appears that we are pawns but it is more like

we are caught in the middle of a battle

for hearts and minds and universal rulership ....which was not God's desire or making from the begining

You are questioning God's counter-action moves

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

8. It wasn't god's time to act

Response - Is there a better time for a loving god to act than before the tsunami kills a quarter of a million innocent people? cofty

P.S. Cofty is this an answer or just repeating your question in another form ?

Yes a better time to act is one decisive blow to end all human suffering forever yet future . God's universal issue is of uttermost importance, it is of greater importance than our current human life.

Not that they would not die or suffer. Christ said that disasters would happen. He said that they would have suffering.

Intimately involved - as in speaking, guiding, teaching, promising and giving eternal life, giving fruits of the spirit, giving the right to become children of God, giving strength and comfort and love and life.~~ Tec

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

Cheers to all that have taken part on this thread , hopely some valuable ideas's were exchanged

If you feel at peace with your inner spirit it makes life fulfilling !!!

***

peace and love

Cal

Houston Texans Cheerleaders, cheerleaders, pom poms

P.S. I love pom pom girls ....they add spirit and joy .. I love all of God's creations !!

Like I said, try reading before you wave your pom-poms.

So... anyone who thinks that someone makes a good point... and say so... is waving pompoms? Be sure to tell all the people who have agreed with you or said good point to you.

cofty.. I think my pom pom girls might be prettier than yours

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

I'd say if the all-important "Universal Sovereignty" (US) issue outweighs God's questionable decision to sit on His Divine Hands while 250k die, then the issue is settled.... God doesn't deserve to rule. ~~adamah

"Seek you the LORD while he may be found, call you upon him while he is near:"( This is the Bibles pleading but not an issued command )

I beleive this is what free will is all about however ... it is your right to chose................go with it... your search for God may well be over

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

You have just said that - it is right, loving and ethical to passively observe the death of a quarter of a million innocent people, even if it is within your power to prevent it.

God's universal issue is of uttermost importance, it is of greater importance than our current human life. Is this fair ? consider the issues

and problems...

The Creator have set a system in motion beyond human comprehension.

Earthquakes, tempests, famines and floods are called 'acts of God' because usually there is no other explanation for their occurrence. So if we look beyond human acts to natural disaster, we find that it falls upon all, innocent and guilty alike. As soon as we begin to question the suffering of innocent victims of these disasters another dilemma is raised. Are we saying that the calamities should be selective in their working, searching out only those who deserve to suffer'?

If God did always intervene in human affairs and earth events

would he need to do this .....yearly, daily or hourly ?

Man lives in an universe of cause and effect and must accept its consequences

The question to ask is... what is the way out ?

So it was that, nearly 2000 years ago, God intervened in the lives and history of man by giving His Son Christ Jesus to share in human suffering to the uttermost in order to bring about redemption from sin and death. Suffering and loss are common to man, but for the children of God they are directed to their Heavenly Father

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

One word answers may be fair in court because you are only a witness, the defense team must should fill in the rest through proper questions to

bring out hidden facts and circumstances that reveal the true picture from your point of view example....

The prosecutor sits down, confident that he has successfully driven home a critical point. The witness, on the other hand, is frustrated because he feels as if his answer was misleading, and he thinks that the questioning is over. It's not. There is re-direct examination, then re-cross, then further re-direct, then further re-cross, and on and on until the lawyers are through

Defense Attorney:
You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right?

Witness:
Right.

Defense attorney:
Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off?

Witness:
Because I saw him spit it out

You should not be frustrated if a lawyer (especially the opponent's lawyer) does not ask the "right" question. That's his plan. But the other lawyer (your ally) has his job, too. He knows what information will help his case, and he will find a way to elicit the testimony from you.

http://www.lawyerssacramento.org/How_To_Testify_in_Court.html

You should not be frustrated if a lawyer (especially the opponent's lawyer) does not ask the "right" question. That's his plan. But the other lawyer (your ally) has his job, too. He knows what information will help his case, and he will find a way to elicit the testimony from you.

Defense Attorney: You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right? Witness: Right. Defense attorney: Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off? Witness:

BeDefense Attorney:
Defense Attorney:

You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right?

Witness:

Right.

Defense attorney:

Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off?

Witness:

Because I saw him spit it out
You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right?

Witness:

Right.

Defense attorney:

Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off?

Witness:

Because I saw him spit it outcause I saw him spit it out.

Defense Attorney: You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right? Witness: Right. Defense attorney: Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off? Witness: Defense Attorney: You just testified on cross-examination that you didn't actually see the man bite his ear off, right? Witness: Right. Defense attorney: Well, if that's the case, how is it that you can say that you know that he bit the other man's ear off? Witness: Because I saw him spit it out.

Because I saw him spit it out.

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

Is it right or loving or ethical to passively observe the death of a quarter of a million innocent people, if is within your power to prevent it? - Cofty

A simple yes or no would do Caliber. Yes

I will give a one word answer ,if you promise not to quote me later without adding that you failed to allow me to qualify the reason for my answer.

and you answer this question .....

IS it honest or in the spirit of fair play ,to ask a question so loaded with adjectives and adverbs that are so bias to yes or no,(if not actually untrue or matter of opinion )

that to answer any other way without explaination would make you look totally unreasonable ? (one word answer yes or no)( you cannot qualify your answer in any way )

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

caliber

"Can aught beneath a power divine
The stubborn will subdue?
'Tis thine, eternal Spirit, thine,
To form the heart anew.

To chase the shades of death away
A beam of heaven, a vital ray,
'Tis thine alone to give"