You have spent 50 pages saying "its a mystery" while studiously avoiding the word. ~~Cofty
Acknowledging that there are missing pieces to a puzzle does not make the entire thing a mystery. If it did we would have to write-off some very important areas of human knowledge. ~~Flamegilled
I think to use the word mystery implies complete unknown and therefore to lack in any practical course or informed decision or choice...
.. to infer no purpose on God's part , but only death and destruction.
And therefore to cast it all off as some outdated computer !!!
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
.so an apparent unloving and unjust act will be balanced out somehow.
Cofty calls the tsunami a case of in-action ...whom should I believe ?
Unloving would be intent to cause harm , would it not ?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
Now, in one simple sentence, explain how a fully just, loving, and omnipotent God would fail to act before a tsunami.
"Though it may appear confusing to us , God's long term concern for the whole human family requires him to follow
what looks like a paradox regarding Him being a loving God." ~~ Cal
Love, justice , wisdom , power must work in balance. His timetable will work out to the full benefit of all but the wicked
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 ¶ For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
Now Explain... you expect much and offer little, also where are your manners
in one simple sentence...... why this constraint? Is it ego, is it bias or is it control?
what mobius strip means to you..... why do you think they, you , humans are that important.. its a shape and we are dust in the universe
I agree S&R , but I simply wished to illustrate the tone of this thread .. now go back
and apply these same question to the topic at hand...
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
Now explain in one simple sentence what mobius strip means to you and why It gives me mental confusion ?
I did, caliber. Your confusion is your own. ~~~Jgnat
Please re-quote your laymen's simple answer .. I fail to see it .....clear up my confusion for me
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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jgnat ...Now explain in one simple sentence what mobius strip means to you and why It gives me mental confusion ?
How it relates to acts or non-acts of God.... we as humans cannot relate in simple terms to all outworkings of God
Sorry S&R I ddn't see your post when I made the above statement
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
Explain with logical facts what is happening with this triangle ? To see is to understand right ?
"the sacred secret” is a secret with many facets. It is not simply the identification of Jesus as being the promised Seed or Messiah ..we don't get it all yet
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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caliber
If a person tries to quote scriptures to reason on the topic ... Cofty says " and don't preach to me."
If another person does try to give personal thoughts on the matter ... it's " where did you dream this up "...you heard a voice in your head you say ?
In fact Wisdom says you must trust God for the ultimate answer
“Do not fear, for I am with you; do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.” Isaiah 41:10
“But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him.” James 1:5
Our hope is Him, and He will return to make our wrongs – our worries – right.
2 Corinthians 4:17 says, “For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison.
Is this to minimize suffering (momentary , light suffering ..) no but it is in comparison to eternal glory (hyperbole )
Facts of faith or faith in facts which will you chose ? Only one of these will carry you to the beyond , to the great unknowns
The sacred secret is still a secret--I'm waiting for a better story. ~~Humbled
..or is the sacred secret unrolled as God sees fit ?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Welcome back Caliber.
thanks cofty however....
I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy ...... having tecnixcal problems .... technical I mean
